Received: from mail-vb0-f58.google.com ([209.85.212.58]:35849) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vt8Cu-0001aq-7r for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:54:14 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f58.google.com with SMTP id p6sf1520322vbe.23 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:53:53 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=EYP2bv0sR8cFptYhm6ToqL9UDGjQ7XTZwhvwrdubO/Q=; b=QBIwf+HVZ1Iumr6VeZrRBsKfa37ebbj8k27G6zlZzE7E+SVxY5Fv+Gbad4Cr3S6O8E aFAfT8YE9TOb8BU2NBhFLeUfff0MM8797sph1FjoGuad1iF/bif6ZnjwuZF+uwNLdU+d XTtric+SkTbxU38nAPHVvwUf8dyoGxQ6cIwH2Qkpb1l682cUsBXhP5p58aU1xmMo/WHy nH8V3cn5BbpL+yeOGRWJO9kPsYoPwh7wQAYldCNzx+KE0xMdvxxAF8OUOi0/u9EIW/nE UEztLL47yEyh1B8uL9EWYwNsAJsgtHG3lb/EJUW4CwfNLvbbyrr+vW+w9oBxz1/eo4Hb 0MUw== X-Received: by 10.50.20.7 with SMTP id j7mr150810ige.8.1387338833865; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.225.6 with SMTP id rg6ls2630513igc.25.gmail; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:53:53 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.221.137 with SMTP id qe9mr13630013pac.4.1387338833018; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:53:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp.hughes.net. [69.168.97.48]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id e11si38923igq.0.2013.12.17.19.53.52 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 19:53:52 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.48; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Btukn+n5 c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=nvv13dyX5nDo84NsYdJ/dA==:117 a=nvv13dyX5nDo84NsYdJ/dA==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=zVhCMP2oAawA:10 a=3B67fYQOCzAA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=SGxB5NWeCVEA:10 a=cb7gvwTmwLcKZ8ZYMrgA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 67.44.192.177 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [67.44.192.177] ([67.44.192.177:60194] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 6E/62-21114-F4C11B25; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:53:52 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id CAD6D44C3 for ; Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:53:40 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Problems with gismu Date: Tue, 17 Dec 2013 22:53:39 -0500 Message-ID: <1494155.d31T264pTM@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-56-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <3f955e44-a4ca-4c9c-ba07-ed82f6dcd1d8@googlegroups.com> <6283075.49M5AXe9n2@caracal> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.48 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Tuesday, December 17, 2013 20:31:50 Jacob Errington wrote: > Some, myself included, simply believe that's the job of {binxo}, with the > definition based on properties: > binxo =3D x1 acquires property x2 (ka) > Of course, this leaves up to context whether any other relevant propertie= s > are lost. What about changing a light bulb? The old bulb does not become the new bulb= ,=20 but the bulb in the socket is changed from the old bulb to the new bulb. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.