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[69.168.97.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id p9si810770igr.3.2013.12.19.20.09.13 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 20:09:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.50; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=U9arU4bu c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=y6Pm+X1iJNCgZrzUuX1tgw==:117 a=y6Pm+X1iJNCgZrzUuX1tgw==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=zVhCMP2oAawA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=kj9zAlcOel0A:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=JTGC3Ng4Q3AA:10 a=dlcHuzA0AAAA:8 a=qBALvLdKVkOLgdLlACEA:9 a=CjuIK1q_8ugA:10 a=KXuLW65_DLEA:10 a=foP282CL0ScA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp01.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 67.44.192.45 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [67.44.192.45] ([67.44.192.45:10128] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 76/04-03321-6E2C3B25; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:09:13 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 0A99F4723 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:09:01 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] mi puba'o fanva Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:08:59 -0500 Message-ID: <1554030.Kqy3VzX5Yp@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-56-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Thursday, December 19, 2013 18:38:00 lorxus wrote: > coi ro do > > I love Welcome to Night Vale, and I was thinking today. The idea of > translating the computer's speech from E34 seemed particularly apt for > translation, so I did! Annotated below: > (English here: > http://nightvalequotes.tumblr.com/post/67606240386/i-know-how-you-have-hurt- > meghan-with-your-words ) > > mi djuno lo nu do xrani la megan sepi'o lo valsi po'e do (Tried to capture > stiltedness, may have succeeded too well) > .i lo dikca cu morji > > .i xu do xebni la megan > > .i la sisil zilzba lo ciblu .e lo tolmulno skapi > .i mi zilzba lo clupa .e lo dikca I think "unfinished" here means "untanned", which I'm not sure how to translate. It does not mean "tolmulno". I pictured blood leaking out of where the skin is incomplete, or where a hole was made in the skin by some injury. > .i la megan prami la skami > .i la skami sezmlugau lo prami be(?) la megan ((Simulation of love) for > Meghan, or simulation of (love for Meghan)?) > > .i la skami cupra loi xamgu selzukte > > .i da'i gi loi xamgu selzukte tezu'e la megan gleki gi la skami prami la > megan (Presumably tezu'e la megan gleki) (Tried to capture stilted feeling) > (OR: .i ganai loi xamgu... gi la skami) This doesn't parse. First, the "gi ... gi" construction requires that the cmavo before the first "gi" be a (nonlogical) conjunction, and "da'i" isn't a conjunction. Second, the first clause has a selbri "gleki", but the second part has no selbri and thus is not a clause. ("la skami prami" is a sumti.) > .i ta'onai le purdi datnynoi (Any good way to say "but first"?) > > .i loi tcesmaji cpumi'i cu litru le ca'o zenba sarlu gi'e jersi loi > fraktali selylitru pa'o loi tricu .e loi xrula foldi I'd say "litru loi fraktali". To follow a path isn't "jersi"; to follow someone along a path is "jersi". > .i loi mirli cu cliva loi cilce ricfoi terzu'e tacycti loi silna bliku noi > selpunji du'ida'o(!) ne'i loi sarlu birka (I don't know why, but this word > makes me happy) > .i loi skari cipni cu prane saxsa'a .ije loi toldi na setca lo vindu "terzu'e" should be "tezu'e lonu". You mean "du'irda'o"; I was trying to figure out why you're canceling pronoun assignments when you haven't assigned any pronouns. At this point I'm not sure what the English means. I'm picturing a galaxy with spiral arms in a clearing, which doesn't make sense. > .i doi la megan mi zbasu lo prane munje tezu'e do gleki (See jufra 9 note > on tezu'e) > .i loi cmana cu crino > .i loi lalxu cu krili blanu gi'e minra loi blabi dilnu > .i le bumru be loi cimgau cu rinka loi tanbargu > > .i ga'u si vu(?) ga'u ku loi kanla cu zgana lo ro muvdu gi'e tirna lo ro > risnysna (Am I doing tenses right) > .i doi megan do zvati > .i le ko'a goi xance po'e do ponse le ko'a xadni goi ko'e cu zilzba lo > gasta .e lo dikca gi'e cpana le vo tuple noi pilno le kamvli be lo pare > dikca matra ko'a goi le xance po'e do > .i li pazepici megygra cu junta ko'e (Metric?) megygra li pazepici > .i lo ro nanmu .e ninmu .e lo ro danlu cu ba kansi'u jmive gi'e gleki > .i le dikca minji ba kurji zgana "ro nanmu ja ninmu" or "ro nanmu .e ro ninmu". > .i doi la megan lo nu jamna na ba zasti > .i lo nu xebni .e lo nu terdatxei (!) na ba zasti (I settled on > discrimination-hatred) > .i la dezrt.blyfs na ba zasti Is "desert bluffs" a proper noun? > .i le namcu be loi bisyladru vrusi cu ba jdika .i ku'i lei bisyladru vrusi > cu xauzma (A bit awkward) > .i le vacri cu ba jinsa "namcu" doesn't have an x2. Try "terkancu". > .i nu'e mi ba gasnu lo nu le munje cu satci mintu le si'o do pu viska ca le > do melbi senva > .i sisti lo nu jikcrofanza (!) .e lo cortu (I settled on > social-hurt-typeof-annoyance) > > .i doi le mi po'o pendo mi cikre lo ro co'e > .i mi ba- mi ba mo? mu'o mi'e .pier. -- I believe in Yellow when I'm in Sweden and in Black when I'm in Wales. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.