Received: from mail-yh0-f64.google.com ([209.85.213.64]:43072) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vtui0-0006wj-FU for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:28 -0800 Received: by mail-yh0-f64.google.com with SMTP id b20sf350643yha.29 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hj8D2HubZ0E1eqlVN1vTKOWby+/ATfWHjwAkc+tRFeU=; b=OtIehsg71XX5JlZtyy74LY5gbhtX2ArURoWQPI0BFKZ/mTWRup0iiQ5UE2wD0bt5nz VntLY5q57T9zEw0dWUI9DWzv/U0Ydhkf1vYUoTPTQ4pLnZWwfvvPIv90/SM0FkZelYmX q2ZrrdNHq3jnJsGcWWGXIlVm6WMhujHDiB7+JIoxsRyQjwDeVXP+8rr67J+xzID8cPu7 U2xacwdmRY3WQRdA3l2vUbtC85Qr97wnG8wedWsnhRtvlW2WT0X9GprMNaupwT0LVlCO 0qqw1kj9ObqkLLk9Wm7WvBzv/3I7QpzMRgep3NvsbknsOBXHpwuGBBvIaBfx6AxQqHyc aIDw== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=hj8D2HubZ0E1eqlVN1vTKOWby+/ATfWHjwAkc+tRFeU=; b=Fr+iJjDplsfgg6+ihcfQ0wqXS4yzBtGaT1nhhifnhr0/EYF0LFolmArbPgUQFyeJWd OrYcsLaFeO9CnQKv5j8lvIMTRP2YQj6eQ0K/YM7qGtg/5SmPZ5mXr88spQLnBcnFf14o K232QLRePVvAJYHBaP2mG5N54Lt43gPyLflQ7fD+HaN9nCPS39YrHVnknLRVx49r8xQ9 5/xYPRVHNgY7F9OQiP2cFHctG0tcFakBV4cHrWuKHijg/23XeGrew7PzbkHfccdcXXa5 8j9PkJozrF2WRZ+GpgxxVYGT7FQ3dkb6GIG/GjpUpdvjqySCltUAt3+jnoGoMdb/3rIY e3WQ== X-Received: by 10.182.28.129 with SMTP id b1mr695obh.37.1387525274287; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.65.232 with SMTP id a8ls371255obt.4.gmail; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:14 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.33.4 with SMTP id n4mr5585obi.9.1387525274097; Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:14 -0800 (PST) Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2013 23:41:12 -0800 (PST) From: lorxus To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <2016633.RUblp2nazY@caracal> References: <1554030.Kqy3VzX5Yp@caracal> <2016633.RUblp2nazY@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban] mi puba'o fanva MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: coronacoreanici@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_203_24815913.1387525272207" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_203_24815913.1387525272207 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Understood; made changes. Follows: mi djuno lo nu do xrani la megan sepi'o lo valsi po'e do .i lo dikca cu morji .i xu do xebni la megan .i la sisil zilzba lo ciblu .e lo tolcupra skapi .i mi zilzba lo clupa .e lo dikca .i la megan prami la skami .i la skami ku sezmlugau lo nu prami be la megan .i la skami ku cupra loi xamgu selzukte .i da'i gi loi xamgu selzukte tezu'e la megan gleki gi la skami ku prami la megan (Presumably tezu'e la megan gleki) (Tried to capture stilted feeling) (OR: .i ganai loi xamgu... gi la skami) .i ta'onai le purdi datnynoi (Any good way to say "but first"?) .i loi tcesmaji cpumi'i cu litru le ca'o zenba sarlu gi'e litru loi fraktali selylitru pa'o loi tricu .e loi xrula foldi .i loi mirli cu cliva loi cilce ricfoi tezu'e lo nu tacycti loi silna bliku noi selpunji du'irda'o ne'i loi sarlu birka .i loi skari cipni cu prane saxsa'a .ije loi toldi na setca lo vindu .i doi la megan mi zbasu lo prane munje tezu'e do gleki (See jufra 9 note on tezu'e) .i loi cmana cu crino .i loi lalxu cu krili blanu gi'e minra loi blabi dilnu .i le bumru be loi cimgau cu rinka loi tanbargu .i ga'u si vu ga'u ku loi kanla cu zgana lo ro muvdu gi'e tirna lo ro risnysna .i doi megan do zvati .i ko'a goi le xance po'e do ponse le ko'a xadni cu zilzba lo gasta .e lo dikca gi'e cpana le vo tuple noi pilno le kamvli be lo pare dikca matra .i megygra li pazepici .i lo ro nanmu ja ninmu .e lo ro danlu cu ba kansi'u jmive gi'e gleki .i le dikca minji ba kurji zgana .i doi la megan lo nu jamna na ba ca'o zasti .i lo nu xebni .e lo nu terdatxei (!) na ba zasti (I settled on discrimination-hatred) .i la dezrt.blyfs na ba zasti .i le namcu be loi bisyladru vrusi cu ba jdika .i ku'i lei bisyladru vrusi cu xauzma (A bit awkward, and apparently incorrect - namcu is wrong!) .i le vacri cu ba jinsa .i nu'e mi ba gasnu lo nu le munje cu satci mintu le si'o do pu viska ca le do melbi senva .i sisti lo nu jikcrofanza (!) .e lo cortu (I settled on social-hurt-typeof-annoyance) .i doi le mi po'o pendo mi cikre lo ro co'e .i mi ba- On Friday, December 20, 2013 12:40:54 AM UTC-5, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > On Thursday, December 19, 2013 21:03:18 lorxus wrote: > > My guess is that it is meant to be surreal and barely sensible, but that > > it should be taken loosely to mean that after the tractors have tract-ed > > along the spiral paths, (which originated in a special spot) then at > points > > equidistant along the arms of the spiral, salt blocks are placed. As for > > the lujvo, forgot I need to glue vowel-ending rafsi together. Why is > > {jvajvo} valid, though? > > "jvajvo" cannot be split into two cmavo; "du'ida'o" can. > > > Not sure if this works, on reflection. Source text talks about the > machine > > *weighing* 17.3 tons, and thus the tons cannot be metric. What would be > a > > good gismu to use here? > > "Weigh" is often used as a verb when talking about mass. There isn't a > gismu > for "ton". I'd keep "megygra". > > Pierre > -- > loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Understood; made changes. Follows:

mi djuno lo nu d= o xrani la megan sepi'o lo valsi po'e do
.i lo dikca cu morji

.i = xu do xebni la megan

.i la sisil zilzba lo ciblu .e lo tolcupra skap= i
.i mi zilzba lo clupa .e lo dikca

.i la megan prami la skami.i la skami ku sezmlugau lo nu prami be la megan

.i la skami ku cup= ra loi xamgu selzukte

.i da'i gi loi xamgu selzukte tezu'e la megan = gleki gi la skami ku prami la megan (Presumably tezu'e la megan gleki) (Tri= ed to capture stilted feeling) (OR: .i ganai loi xamgu... gi la skami)
<= br>.i ta'onai le purdi datnynoi (Any good way to say "but first"?)

.= i loi tcesmaji cpumi'i cu litru le ca'o zenba sarlu gi'e litru loi fraktali= selylitru pa'o loi tricu .e loi xrula foldi
.i loi mirli cu cliva loi c= ilce ricfoi tezu'e lo nu tacycti loi silna bliku noi selpunji du'irda'o ne'= i loi sarlu birka
.i loi skari cipni cu prane saxsa'a .ije loi toldi na = setca lo vindu

.i doi la megan mi zbasu lo prane munje tezu'e do gle= ki (See jufra 9 note on tezu'e)
.i loi cmana cu crino
.i loi lalxu cu= krili blanu gi'e minra loi blabi dilnu
.i le bumru be loi cimgau cu rin= ka loi tanbargu

.i ga'u si vu ga'u ku loi kanla cu zgana lo ro muvdu= gi'e tirna lo ro risnysna
.i doi megan do zvati
.i ko'a goi le xance= po'e do ponse le ko'a xadni cu zilzba lo gasta .e lo dikca gi'e cpana le v= o tuple noi pilno le kamvli be lo pare dikca matra
.i megygra li pazepic= i
.i lo ro nanmu ja ninmu .e lo ro danlu cu ba kansi'u jmive gi'e gleki<= br>.i le dikca minji ba kurji zgana

.i doi la megan lo nu jamna na b= a ca'o zasti  
.i lo nu xebni .e lo nu terdatxei (!) na ba za= sti (I settled on discrimination-hatred)
.i la dezrt.blyfs na ba zasti
.i le namcu be loi bisyladru vrusi cu ba jdika .i ku'i lei bisyladru = vrusi cu xauzma (A bit awkward, and apparently incorrect - namcu is wrong!)=
.i le vacri cu ba jinsa

.i nu'e mi ba gasnu lo nu le munje cu sa= tci mintu le si'o do pu viska ca le do melbi senva
.i sisti lo nu jikcro= fanza (!)  .e lo cortu (I settled on social-hurt-typeof-annoyance)
=
.i doi le mi po'o pendo mi cikre lo ro co'e
.i mi ba-

On Frid= ay, December 20, 2013 12:40:54 AM UTC-5, Pierre Abbat wrote:
On Thursday, December 19, 2013 21:03:18 lorxu= s wrote:
> My guess is that it is meant to be surreal and barely sensible, bu= t that
> it should be taken loosely to mean that after the tractors have tr= act-ed
> along the spiral paths, (which originated in a special spot) then = at points
> equidistant along the arms of the spiral, salt blocks are placed. = As for
> the lujvo, forgot I need to glue vowel-ending rafsi together. Why = is
> {jvajvo} valid, though?

"jvajvo" cannot be split into two cmavo; "du'ida'o" can.

> Not sure if this works, on reflection. Source text talks about the= machine
> *weighing* 17.3 tons, and thus the tons cannot be metric. What wou= ld be a
> good gismu to use here?

"Weigh" is often used as a verb when talking about mass. There isn't a = gismu=20
for "ton". I'd keep "megygra".

Pierre
--=20
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

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