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On Thursday, December 19, 2013 23:40:16 lorxus wrote:
> .iepei .uisai
> 
> Not quite, though. We use KCl for salt, too, sometimes. But more or less! I
> also have somewhat of a problem with the inconsistency of forced to'e use:
> we have zunle/pritu, nenri/bartu, stali/cliva, tordu/clani, hell, even
> blanu/narju and glare/lenku. But we're forced to use to'e constructions for
> words like arrive, discard, and old. (And for that matter, how do you even
> mark deixis (go/come distinction) in Lojban, anyway?)

With the deixis words ti, ta, or tu in x2 or x3. The go/come distinction is 
not universal; Hebrew instead contrasts enter/exit (ba'/tse').

"Disappear" is the opposite of "appear" (which is opposite to how Lojban does 
it - canci/tolcanci) but "discard" is not the opposite of "card". And in 
Spanish "desnudo" (lunbe) is not the opposite of "nudo" (jgena); Latin "nudus" 
and "nodus" fell together, and they added a prefix to distinguish them.

As to "silna", I think it should be a general term for all sorts of chemical 
salts, table salt, or sea salt, and we should make lujvo for when we want to 
distinguish them. But there's only one "composition" place, and a salt is 
composed of positive ions and negative ions, which can be varied 
independently.

Pierre
-- 
loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji

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