Received: from mail-pd0-f190.google.com ([209.85.192.190]:34366) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VuHwJ-00047j-0s for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:43 -0800 Received: by mail-pd0-f190.google.com with SMTP id g10sf587459pdj.17 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=mxhb6dBYlQjmUuYyWTTUjdla6aM10F7m/BQryQ/V8iY=; b=RZMvvi5Zi8NTjNS75IE49kOp4n/9pnITtNkKPPPMrAVTP9a9hgfaY3emCsiSNuuVnE HZLRWXKgCxUpLJ3Qw8ijHHx2btyX3hERvpgeECNTOSTndSDXI/cyz+NZYTXwYFQIoVlB R/7tM/pZWFBGB1Uib+ZH4ooukJfwYhBUw4zzsgg32jBAuvQTTEfsMrgch8XVfS3a1W7l PMRc8kk4qPCQNBWG2L5V1KrZtDhGOIZ40TsJ8DtToN1+WKaU/3ykSAvWOHkOUvX3N1lx TATlpcq7qmWNyWb72A03pEJxrLsinLZS8TCm1y84DXrR2NXhkeV/59x/42KzMhPLHoVr O7CQ== X-Received: by 10.49.94.144 with SMTP id dc16mr8014qeb.21.1387614572955; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.40.194 with SMTP id z2ls1090208qek.23.gmail; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.54.97 with SMTP id i1mr5969658vep.40.1387614572586; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x234.google.com (mail-ob0-x234.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o30si3662502yhn.1.2013.12.21.00.29.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of coronacoreanici@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234; Received: by mail-ob0-f180.google.com with SMTP id wo20so3700513obc.39 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.52.177 with SMTP id u17mr9863890oeo.24.1387614572192; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.33.38 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:29:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 03:29:32 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "salty" From: Paul Rapoport To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: coronacoreanici@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of coronacoreanici@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::234 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=coronacoreanici@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133056aa927c404ee0731cf X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a1133056aa927c404ee0731cf Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 It seems OK to me. I'm not sure what you mean. What do you mean by standard algorithm? E: salti (4) C: cian (2) S: salado (3) R: solenyy (3) H: namakina (2) A: malx (2) As for definition: salty seems sufficient for an English definition, because that refers to table salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect example" of NaCl (ctisilna vrusi) would definitely work. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > lorxus added to jbovlaste > salni = x1 is salty/briny to observer x2. > > See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This word is oddly missing; > note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sodium citrate, bitter > magnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) sodium glutamate, so > "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless. > > Is everything okay to you? I mean may be we should have used the standard > algorithm? > What is the etymology of this word? > Russian:"solion" > English:"solti" > etc. > > Besides, I suggested that we used a taste prototype for it, namely NaCl > and/or KCl. > > For now I can't accept neither sounding nor definition. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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It seems OK to me. I= 9;m not sure what you mean. What do you mean by standard algorithm?
E: salti (4)
C: cian (2)
S: salado (3)
R: sole= nyy (3)
H: namakina (2)
A: malx (2)

As for definition: = salty seems sufficient for an English definition, because that refers to ta= ble salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect example" of NaCl (ctis= ilna vrusi) would definitely work.


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
lorxus added to jbovlastesalni =A0=3D x1 is salty/briny to observer x2.

<= div>See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This word is oddly missing;= note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sodium citrate, bitter m= agnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) sodium glutamate, so = "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless.

Is everything okay to you? I mean may= be we should have used the standard algorithm?
What is the etymo= logy of this word?
Russian:"solion"
English:&= quot;solti"
etc.

Besides, I suggested that we used a tast= e prototype for it, namely NaCl and/or KCl.

For no= w I can't accept neither sounding nor definition.

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