Received: from mail-fa0-f61.google.com ([209.85.161.61]:48387) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VuIBo-0004Ce-LL for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:47 -0800 Received: by mail-fa0-f61.google.com with SMTP id n1sf245560fan.6 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:33 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=/6EqdV+FeUALU0sw5dnKyooazas7t0HpHhWFOChBzZE=; b=E8Hk624p8Oz4G1JIwQnXAtGVyuZ9soslpocbenWVAcmPqsT/K7OxeVniCs023Vfe05 xNSxkdFm5z0JVBQsCOPjag82hOH2At6IBOfYvMHVgZDLfth8JbhXBg18qr7kJmQuhKJ5 sV9t8OZVsj8rBckBswhyuEyIoAO/H22e9aE97IZp8gSyWGYT+IbDRZP2zrOJnKahl+Fl vml5uUD4ZFeczWojPIbfmb3VOWVuCLzRmk0thshg+Im56N3yB2zjxdQRQa+vGRT/yLmu J6gmDhwi35FqlP2Gnl15YVYwguiCVQX2xhxLBIIjGZQf4qRl/a4nNlYur6V/uKE8AQgm DlgA== X-Received: by 10.180.85.3 with SMTP id d3mr84717wiz.13.1387615533119; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:33 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.36.193 with SMTP id s1ls1372266wij.16.canary; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.14.179.134 with SMTP id h6mr4201554eem.7.1387615532580; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-wg0-x236.google.com (mail-wg0-x236.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c00::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t4si769907wiv.1.2013.12.21.00.45.32 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c00::236; Received: by mail-wg0-f54.google.com with SMTP id n12so3299244wgh.33 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.187.101 with SMTP id fr5mr1451218wjc.76.1387615532441; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.60.78 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 00:45:32 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 12:45:32 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "salty" From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c00::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bd6b9ace566dd04ee076a03 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bd6b9ace566dd04ee076a03 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 I mean did you run the algorithm counting ratings of generated gismu? http://dag.github.io/cll/4/14/ Mandarin: "siani" ("x" in pinyin is rather "si" than "c") Hindi: "namakin" Urdu: "namakin" Spanish: "salado" English:"salti" Arabic: "malix" Russian: "sylion" Portuguese: "salgado" French "sali" German: "saltsig" Japanese: "copai" / "ciokarai" Bengali: ??? Punjabi: ??? Javanese: ??? Wu: ??? Marathi: ??? Telugu: ??? Vietnamese: ??? On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Paul Rapoport wrote: > It seems OK to me. I'm not sure what you mean. What do you mean by > standard algorithm? > E: salti (4) > C: cian (2) > S: salado (3) > R: solenyy (3) > H: namakina (2) > A: malx (2) > > As for definition: salty seems sufficient for an English definition, > because that refers to table salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect > example" of NaCl (ctisilna vrusi) would definitely work. > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < > gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: > >> lorxus added to jbovlaste >> salni = x1 is salty/briny to observer x2. >> >> See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This word is oddly missing; >> note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sodium citrate, bitter >> magnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) sodium glutamate, so >> "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless. >> >> Is everything okay to you? I mean may be we should have used the standard >> algorithm? >> What is the etymology of this word? >> Russian:"solion" >> English:"solti" >> etc. >> >> Besides, I suggested that we used a taste prototype for it, namely NaCl >> and/or KCl. >> >> For now I can't accept neither sounding nor definition. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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I mean did you run the algorithm counting ratings of gener= ated gismu?

h= ttp://dag.github.io/cll/4/14/

Mandarin: &qu= ot;siani" ("x" in pinyin is rather "si" than "= ;c")
Hindi: "namakin"
Urdu: "namakin"
Spanish: "salado"
English:"salti"
Arabic: "malix"
Russian: "sylion"
Portuguese: "salgado"
French "sali"
German: "saltsig"
Japanese: "copai" / &= quot;ciokarai"
Bengali: ???
Punjabi: ???
Javanese: ???
Wu: ???
Marathi: ???
Telug= u: ???
Vietnamese: ???


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Paul= Rapoport <coronacoreanici@gmail.com> wrote:
It seems OK to me. I'm not sure what you mean. What do you mean= by standard algorithm?
E: salti (4)
C: cian (2)
S: salado (3)
R: = solenyy (3)
H: namakina (2)
A: malx (2)

As for definition: = salty seems sufficient for an English definition, because that refers to ta= ble salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect example" of NaCl (ctis= ilna vrusi) would definitely work.


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 A= M, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrot= e:
lorxus added to jbovlaste
salni =A0=3D x1 is salty/briny to ob= server x2.

See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This w= ord is oddly missing; note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sod= ium citrate, bitter magnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) = sodium glutamate, so "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless.

Is everything okay to you? I mean may= be we should have used the standard algorithm?
What is the etymo= logy of this word?
Russian:"solion"
English:&= quot;solti"
etc.

Besides, I suggested that we used a tast= e prototype for it, namely NaCl and/or KCl.

For no= w I can't accept neither sounding nor definition.

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