Received: from mail-gg0-f191.google.com ([209.85.161.191]:51487) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VuJGW-0004n9-LW for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:45 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f191.google.com with SMTP id s7sf298409gga.18 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=+lXKRZkLN2v+f1dilLlDmN7wz0gJk/R5wxDABeBU9kw=; b=JAQc5FJa5q5iPOdF4uZZiPQ6mm1751Gmq4h6OORFJcn9QRxeCL5ER+LF1Sn/ZJi5cR 33ZJKIgMoV0I5w5yTNapbjXVD7mXzit/GdbbUSNEGrWK9ENmta8UsRS1mTKk8OOGpkIV Mvm4GUtbtXmRK3BDHDMbAsNDkmgFyPzfzyPQdepaQO7xOqolOFFm/gBCxuM0qGQmkcZi n2QqIPW1vOFRyjU3nw19XsKDA9LMNCWgck3VfuK+ccP+aHVFFskdla3cfbR9MrvUuGX3 C3nFe4TfC3X4QqrgonrGQh+51F1OLx7GQmu4P2Ek4qf0ndSpxo2mKS6C/EIe1DSwA9+r Gf/g== X-Received: by 10.182.158.196 with SMTP id ww4mr150551obb.5.1387619670441; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:30 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.236.35 with SMTP id ur3ls581389obc.98.gmail; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.246.39 with SMTP id xt7mr5874170obc.40.1387619669985; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ob0-x232.google.com (mail-ob0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v64si3704544yhm.3.2013.12.21.01.54.29 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of coronacoreanici@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232; Received: by mail-ob0-f178.google.com with SMTP id uz6so3722432obc.37 for ; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.182.247.68 with SMTP id yc4mr824838obc.67.1387619669645; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.76.33.38 with HTTP; Sat, 21 Dec 2013 01:54:29 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2013 04:54:29 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "salty" From: Paul Rapoport To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: coronacoreanici@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of coronacoreanici@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4003:c01::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=coronacoreanici@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e015384d67e27f404ee0861b7 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e015384d67e27f404ee0861b7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 You mean the letter-counting one? I thought I had. Those are the numbers in parentheses in the previous email. I thought it only cared about those 6 languages though. On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > I mean did you run the algorithm counting ratings of generated gismu? > > http://dag.github.io/cll/4/14/ > > Mandarin: "siani" ("x" in pinyin is rather "si" than "c") > Hindi: "namakin" > Urdu: "namakin" > Spanish: "salado" > English:"salti" > Arabic: "malix" > Russian: "sylion" > Portuguese: "salgado" > French "sali" > German: "saltsig" > Japanese: "copai" / "ciokarai" > Bengali: ??? > Punjabi: ??? > Javanese: ??? > Wu: ??? > Marathi: ??? > Telugu: ??? > Vietnamese: ??? > > > On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 PM, Paul Rapoport > wrote: > >> It seems OK to me. I'm not sure what you mean. What do you mean by >> standard algorithm? >> E: salti (4) >> C: cian (2) >> S: salado (3) >> R: solenyy (3) >> H: namakina (2) >> A: malx (2) >> >> As for definition: salty seems sufficient for an English definition, >> because that refers to table salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect >> example" of NaCl (ctisilna vrusi) would definitely work. >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxokuna < >> gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> lorxus added to jbovlaste >>> salni = x1 is salty/briny to observer x2. >>> >>> See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This word is oddly missing; >>> note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sodium citrate, bitter >>> magnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) sodium glutamate, so >>> "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless. >>> >>> Is everything okay to you? I mean may be we should have used the >>> standard algorithm? >>> What is the etymology of this word? >>> Russian:"solion" >>> English:"solti" >>> etc. >>> >>> Besides, I suggested that we used a taste prototype for it, namely NaCl >>> and/or KCl. >>> >>> For now I can't accept neither sounding nor definition. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. 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You mean the letter-counting one? I thought I had. Those a= re the numbers in parentheses in the previous email. I thought it only care= d about those 6 languages though.

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On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 3:45 AM, Gleki Arxokuna = <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
I mean did you run the algorithm counting ratings of gener= ated gismu?

http://dag.github.io/cll/4/14/

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Mandarin: "siani" ("x" in pinyin is rather "si&quo= t; than "c")
Hindi: "namakin"
Urdu: "namakin"
Spanish: "salado"
English:"salti"
Arabic: "malix"
Russian: "sylion"
Portuguese: "salgado"
French "sali"
German: "saltsig"
Japanese: "copai" / &= quot;ciokarai"
Bengali: ???
Punjabi: ???
Javanese: ???
Wu: ???
Marathi: ???
Telug= u: ???
Vietnamese: ???


On Sat, Dec 21,= 2013 at 12:29 PM, Paul Rapoport <coronacoreanici@gmail.com>= ; wrote:
It seems OK to me. I'm not sure what you mean. What do you mean= by standard algorithm?
E: salti (4)
C: cian (2)
S: salado (3)
R: = solenyy (3)
H: namakina (2)
A: malx (2)

As for definition: = salty seems sufficient for an English definition, because that refers to ta= ble salt/sea salt/cooking salt. A "perfect example" of NaCl (ctis= ilna vrusi) would definitely work.


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:52 AM, Gleki Arxo= kuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com> wrote:
lorxu= s added to jbovlaste
salni =A0=3D x1 is salty/briny to observer x2.

See also silna, xamsi, titla, slari, kurki. This w= ord is oddly missing; note that silna can mean sweet lead acetate, sour sod= ium citrate, bitter magnesium sulfate, or umami (which also needs a word!) = sodium glutamate, so "silna vrusi" is almost meaningless.

Is everything okay to you? I mean may= be we should have used the standard algorithm?
What is the etymo= logy of this word?
Russian:"solion"
English:&= quot;solti"
etc.

Besides, I suggested that we used a tast= e prototype for it, namely NaCl and/or KCl.

For no= w I can't accept neither sounding nor definition.

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