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Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 15:42:03 +0400
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Subject: Re: gismu algorithm (was: [lojban] "salty")
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 Content preview:  I second this On Dec 22, 2013 3:31 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com>
    wrote: > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:57 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote: > >>
    The developers of the algorithm apparently think that 'meaningless' >> grammatical
    affixes would merely ruin the results. I think they have a >> point, but,
    whatever. The importance of the gismu algorithm shouldn't be >> overstated.
    >> > > It has importance? When did that happen? I always figured it was created
    > to save effort on creating 1400+ words. Or to put it another way, it was
    > created for reasons of (understandable) laziness. > > Personally, I don't
    think it's necessary for determining the form of one > or two *experimental*
    gismu. On a case by case basis, I'm certain a human > would be much better
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I second this
On Dec 22, 2013 3:31 PM, "Jonathan Jones" <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:57 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> The developers of the algorithm apparently think that 'meaningless'
>> grammatical affixes would merely ruin the results. I think they have a
>> point, but, whatever. The importance of the gismu algorithm shouldn't be
>> overstated.
>>
>
> It has importance? When did that happen? I always figured it was created
> to save effort on creating 1400+ words. Or to put it another way, it was
> created for reasons of (understandable) laziness.
>
> Personally, I don't think it's necessary for determining the form of one
> or two *experimental* gismu. On a case by case basis, I'm certain a human
> would be much better at it.
>
> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )
>
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<p dir=3D"ltr">I second this</p>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Dec 22, 2013 3:31 PM, &quot;Jonathan Jones&qu=
ot; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:eyeonus@gmail.com">eyeonus@gmail.com</a>&gt; wrot=
e:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On S=
un, Dec 22, 2013 at 3:57 AM, iesk <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:p=
a.fae@gmx.de" target=3D"_blank">pa.fae@gmx.de</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #c=
cc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr"><div><span>The developers of the algorithm apparently thin=
k that &#39;meaningless&#39; grammatical affixes would merely ruin the resu=
lts. I think they have a point, but, whatever. The importance of the gismu =
algorithm shouldn&#39;t be overstated.</span><br>

</div></div></blockquote></div><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra">It has =
importance? When did that happen? I always figured it was created to save e=
ffort on creating 1400+ words. Or to put it another way, it was created for=
 reasons of (understandable) laziness.<br>

<br>Personally, I don&#39;t think it&#39;s necessary for determining the fo=
rm of one or two *experimental* gismu. On a case by case basis, I&#39;m cer=
tain a human would be much better at it.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra=
">

<br>.i.e&#39;ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo&=
#39;o<br>(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )<br>
</div></div>

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