Received: from mail-vc0-f183.google.com ([209.85.220.183]:35262) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VuqHQ-0006BQ-M3 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:58 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f183.google.com with SMTP id ie18sf874298vcb.20 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=cn/yd2l1DJ6Z1qRnUHewn4fDqm2yfOeaFZXgOIHD+Rg=; b=o2yGM935bX+tgsoA+WZIk6LIe9/xkFTPnWVDUrf3Xmq4wkTWKs3Vesm3Vx78E6WMGQ Hkj+0BShengvjSgUF2+hejpO+q3mwURkwVlmsTxgxlAdGiNFuPBIwSUratLOF5Ltf1bH zNl2oPVPDzbvqpY6ZPVmTKXMec+vnGojT1FqSKKjdmmW9XH/lALVJIz5G4zbi/XEXjb8 Xgonw/TNNMcfaTbAgXwo2GEZjrBj9yhfoGjEcM6+dDoKZ26W+pzZE8tTcM6bOt5ymjGD BrRNodo2UNqhQqJDjbeC7MyN5iFPLHQK+4KtrULj/Ic66TAkRPlCj4V/UWMpekcHYdFS v0Cw== X-Received: by 10.182.181.42 with SMTP id dt10mr19319obc.16.1387746578246; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.103.227 with SMTP id fz3ls687024obb.57.gmail; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:38 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.151.42 with SMTP id un10mr9017273obb.12.1387746577996; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x231.google.com (mail-qa0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t9si1769435qcn.2.2013.12.22.13.09.37 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231; Received: by mail-qa0-f49.google.com with SMTP id ii20so4492332qab.15 for ; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.55.69 with SMTP id t5mr36556616qag.82.1387746577849; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.224.98 with HTTP; Sun, 22 Dec 2013 13:09:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <6c574e80-490a-49fc-9993-b063ae4430c7@googlegroups.com> <520032ce-f5db-497b-87bb-c151a5496902@googlegroups.com> Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2013 14:09:37 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] completely off-topic From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7bdc88f2cfa46804ee25ed14 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7bdc88f2cfa46804ee25ed14 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > I'm sure you're aware of the names of the at least the majority of the > letterals in Lojban ( {.abu}, {by.}, etc.). The names of "." and "," in > Lojban are, respectively, {denpa bu} and {slaka bu}. > > The Dot Side doesn't refer to using letterals as pro-sumti, as in the > {by.} in {la.benjis. gerku .i by. barda}. It refers to the practice of > leading cmevla with a "." so that the *letteral* groups "la", "lai", and > "doi" can be used in them. (As for example {la.doitcland.} or > {la.las,andjeles.}). > > > On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote= : > >> Because I'm talking about the letteral ".", not the mathematical >> expression {pi}. >> >> >> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:24 AM, iesk wrote: >> >>> Le dimanche 22 d=E9cembre 2013 12:31:40 UTC+1, aionys a =E9crit : >>> >>> > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >>> >>> Why don't you use {me'o denpa bu}? I understand your {denpa bu} as an >>> anaphora. A kind of unusual one, since word-initial glottal stops are >>> ignored in the letterals-as-pro-sumti tradition. {me'o denpa bu goi den= pa >>> bu}? ;) >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> mu'o mi'e .aionys. >> >> >> .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o >> (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) >> > > > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) > --=20 mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --047d7bdc88f2cfa46804ee25ed14 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= un, Dec 22, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm sure you'r= e aware of the names of the at least the majority of the letterals in Lojba= n ( {.abu}, {by.}, etc.). The names of "." and "," in L= ojban are, respectively, {denpa bu} and {slaka bu}.

The Dot Side doesn't refer to using letterals as pro-sumti, a= s in the {by.} in {la.benjis. gerku .i by. barda}. It refers to the practic= e of leading cmevla with a "." so that the letteral groups= "la", "lai", and "doi" can be used in them. = (As for example {la.doitcland.} or {la.las,andjeles.}).

On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 1:53 PM, Jonathan = Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com> wrote:
Because I'm talking abo= ut the letteral ".", not the mathematical expression {pi}.


On = Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 5:24 AM, iesk <pa.fae@gmx.de> wrote:
Le dimanche 22 d=E9cembre 2= 013 12:31:40 UTC+1, aionys a =E9crit=A0:

> .i.e'ucai ko cmima= lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o

Why don't you use {me'o denpa bu}? I understand your {denpa bu}= as an anaphora. A kind of unusual one, since word-initial glottal stops ar= e ignored in the letterals-as-pro-sumti tradition. {me'o denpa bu goi d= enpa bu}? ;)

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-- <= br>mu'o mi'e .aionys.


.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno b= e denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side!= Luke, I am your father. :D )



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mu'o mi'e .aion= ys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu= do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D )



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mu'o mi= 'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.l= uk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. = :D )

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