Received: from mail-ob0-f187.google.com ([209.85.214.187]:63573) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VvbpJ-0006Es-Ey for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:56:00 -0800 Received: by mail-ob0-f187.google.com with SMTP id wo20sf1391133obc.4 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=l2Naua22aDy6D7xyP3hBcGk5XIWneRZe59oe4tsmGxE=; b=FuaA4a7Dv7AqbaJYGJ2EMrO2wcW3s7t6eaPZukjG+aCmhP/+b1QgPE1Vm24FZFlxgl H7Fx4aCL5De8xpDtHQOjXV70Gy9zpmOQElNuhwaux/+TlwSSzD3TnfwfJ5OSUKgrgfyQ 7EudlEZlIY8LIc09PTnZy8Q2KJRiDF3WN8NI7knj0Ot+CUlbLIXf/V4BdgK+3UMsBuw7 xEZCGLgMR49hSrDpzuj05a8O2iYr4tEzmoG0lKCMQORAzvX/BeEjgqx+LyfrzrFiyb8c W+1jv9gnlySeLsMad3x9PDQP/Qy7y5n5ui1Ej5tt23bW8fM57OX+78SqPaWZwuhtypTo THCA== X-Received: by 10.49.82.45 with SMTP id f13mr44861qey.20.1387929347179; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.37.163 with SMTP id z3ls2169827qej.1.gmail; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.147.41 with SMTP id th9mr12878801veb.8.1387929346804; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ig0-x236.google.com (mail-ig0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id i24si7378195yhe.6.2013.12.24.15.55.46 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236; Received: by mail-ig0-x236.google.com with SMTP id c10so16737176igq.3 for ; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.40.83 with SMTP id k19mr22034038ice.3.1387929346622; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.229.46 with HTTP; Tue, 24 Dec 2013 15:55:46 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2273117.mcxNU9l8Bn@caracal> References: <52B961BE.4050905@gmx.de> <2939536.OVtyZCq2ca@caracal> <2273117.mcxNU9l8Bn@caracal> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 2013 21:55:46 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] The Wonderful Wizard of Oz From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c05::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba1efbf4adca8004ee507b40 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba1efbf4adca8004ee507b40 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 24 December 2013 19:21, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Tuesday, December 24, 2013 16:41:26 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis wrote: > > Note {la .d=F2rotis. cu x=E0bju}. This is another one from the "cmevla = are > > brivla" clan. > > Putting "cu" there is not wrong, just not needed, and I didn't notice it. > But > grave accents on every brivla look a bit strange. > > I haven't counted (I'm still reading the story, and I just passed the poi= nt > where she pulled Toto back in through the lolvro), but I think that the > "cu" > made necessary by "cmevla are brivla" are more than the "noi" saved. > > (This probably should derive to a new thread) Word or syllable count is hardly relevant, the argument is for simplicity and regularity. You should consider the cognitive impact as well. I should mention that I am still personally conservative in this matter. I tend to be conservative because I want to preserve the language unity while the corpus and community are small. mu'o mi'e .asiz. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --90e6ba1efbf4adca8004ee507b40 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On 24 December 2013 19:21, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org>= wrote:
On Tuesday, December 24, 2= 013 16:41:26 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis wrote:
> Note {la .d=F2rotis. cu x=E0bju}. This is another one from the "c= mevla are
> brivla" clan.

Putting "cu" there is not wrong, just not needed, and I did= n't notice it. But
grave accents on every brivla look a bit strange.

I haven't counted (I'm still reading the story, and I just passed t= he point
where she pulled Toto back in through the lolvro), but I think that the &qu= ot;cu"
made necessary by "cmevla are brivla" are more than the "noi= " saved.


(This probably should derive to a new thread)

Word or sy= llable count is hardly relevant, the argument is for simplicity and regular= ity. You should consider the cognitive impact as well.

I should mention that I am still personally conservative in this matter= . I tend to be conservative because I want to preserve the language unity w= hile the corpus and community are small.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.=

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