Received: from mail-qc0-f186.google.com ([209.85.216.186]:55964) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VwoGW-0006Oe-LX for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:25:08 -0800 Received: by mail-qc0-f186.google.com with SMTP id e9sf2121447qcy.23 for ; Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:24:50 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1gpO8/G/ovN6vfA/kZ4SFUpXdC/P2jHnsvsFU4SznWA=; b=s1P9PEkMAEAi/2CZ20YgQ+kuiSJCIgU5pUBzuHWS2NMaNKOWCB2qXO2+a7boN286lJ 24iWx8aAhxEeKq387KtR/7XpMoL9oqbvI2qKBKMKN1lpndAcTPdTZ6cQK7NmEeHdn6r1 1YC12gAaijpf7q5TBrIx71mmpYJAt0Zk/uYVig5s1Og/THl3Qn4DliDCBFyY/GRSnnzH cGe8nRspLiZSzopspRT8BHH39S9sJBwuPg5CT0cRg7qMW8ov1YXUWrg+8cz4usz5r/AX EFH9Ygt0MbOH0aGezMC01qtvljb2XeYW1hJBBZddgwvvrEWz4M1A62J7tttEkEx4Ttu5 ftZg== DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=date:from:to:message-id:in-reply-to:references:subject:mime-version :x-original-sender:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id :list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=1gpO8/G/ovN6vfA/kZ4SFUpXdC/P2jHnsvsFU4SznWA=; b=SUaap8/BoKNoynK+QJTYjWTdjJ6ICqMOJ2lPP+jKReJ/udqx85Olh4edzS5dCuMexV AwfUAxGX5wZGnnBZGdWcskwvcCjP+mTbBTci5Zp9NSrj1UMhJ4nAEg/2ncKmOPniKhiI 7iStpqsOyDbOxz6DQqQC7RFZBoxoKblsnhfcp92H2noRVyU3c/t0otcZLNoOKvoGGSZE 1IdwRs0u3qfiPB5rT/IGzFVdE0E/4FICEMVodBp3q7eUUMYJ8OYZz1EGarCGv9cBWToi GKNHExNVHSx6h9DTMP97RIHUjTThYcUPnqJ8EXiGCSLuXzGULA/93hMBUDjVY6BrPnvP eR8w== X-Received: by 10.49.25.103 with SMTP id b7mr2977qeg.19.1388215490099; Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:24:50 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.131.70 with SMTP id ok6ls2429524qeb.86.gmail; Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:24:49 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.49.16.168 with SMTP id h8mr650050qed.2.1388215489763; Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:24:49 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 27 Dec 2013 23:24:48 -0800 (PST) From: la arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com Message-Id: In-Reply-To: <1631893.tefe0xbQy3@caracal> References: <3f955e44-a4ca-4c9c-ba07-ed82f6dcd1d8@googlegroups.com> <1631893.tefe0xbQy3@caracal> Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: Problems with gismu MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_4654_16401208.1388215488981" X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.1 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / ------=_Part_4654_16401208.1388215488981 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:31:55 PM UTC+4, Pierre Abbat wrote: > > (And for that matter, how do you even > > mark deixis (go/come distinction) in Lojban, anyway?) > > With the deixis words ti, ta, or tu in x2 or x3. The go/come distinction > is > not universal; Hebrew instead contrasts enter/exit (ba'/tse'). > "Come"/"go" can probably be separated with aspects. "come" is rather *mo'u klama* or *co'i klama*. "go" is *ca'o klama* although of course we can have "coming" as *ca'o co'i klama* However, one needs to understand the meaning behind what's being said. "Don't translate words but meaning!" as said in one tutorial in the wiki. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. ------=_Part_4654_16401208.1388215488981 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable


On Friday, December 20, 2013 6:31:55 PM UTC+4, Pie= rre Abbat wrote:
(And for that = matter, how do you even
> mark deixis (go/come distinction) in Lojban, anyway?)

With the deixis words ti, ta, or tu in x2 or x3. The go/come distinctio= n is=20
not universal; Hebrew instead contrasts enter/exit (ba'/tse').

"Come"/"go" can probably be separated = with aspects.
"come" is rather mo'u klama or co'i = klama.
"go" is ca'o klama
although of course= we can have "coming" as ca'o co'i klama
However, one need= s to understand the meaning behind what's being said.
"Don't tran= slate words but meaning!" as said in one tutorial in the wiki.

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