Received: from mail-vc0-f191.google.com ([209.85.220.191]:38566) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VxPHK-0003AL-U1 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:25 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f191.google.com with SMTP id ks9sf2513922vcb.18 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:08 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=6aVeGH6oT7UFwCoDxeg88tnicfsoeP4092++GpDWF7Q=; b=WMSqo/efnzqHpIMROmRIfC8xdo8E7oEPOEjJFL5+GjS6+Fk5fCIM3x05scc34SVgun LVxExDSsJFxGkaUcg1B8lp8L4VAlZE6mN/+Lq1Z8MfgyeuXiMaxGddyBh5zpVBpzbvY3 108oiNwZdPZd1rFGte76Wa4Npqta9z7/PU+h1wYEtCrHnt6V5T8RgQyQVfxOrTz7XuXV BE42gD+KlbEtH9d8nMM8N3zEpB6VwakB54Ufwp6rFM3bn42cTldIa1nurN68/pk4jvBp WN3BldUil0EO0qv33rlcv4p4I4KZ+yKKa0QnLppCEGT/NuLTdGjoU41uYbup9eg0sxBU AFng== X-Received: by 10.50.134.6 with SMTP id pg6mr896292igb.7.1388357768345; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:08 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.136.170 with SMTP id qb10ls5026287igb.37.gmail; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.8.234 with SMTP id u10mr14594076paa.40.1388357767895; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x22f.google.com (mail-vc0-x22f.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z8si1826281qcn.0.2013.12.29.14.56.07 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f; Received: by mail-vc0-f175.google.com with SMTP id lf12so4508893vcb.34 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.4.138 with SMTP id k10mr23596137vek.8.1388357767613; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:56:07 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.186.136 with HTTP; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 14:55:37 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <2534430.oDsDTkM25b@caracal> References: <2534430.oDsDTkM25b@caracal> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:55:37 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] lo fraso gimste To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22f as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5d2dc68f5a4204eeb43b3f X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b5d2dc68f5a4204eeb43b3f Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I would say no, not capitalized, because the gloss should be as general as possible. stevo On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Sunday, December 29, 2013 12:13:34 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Jonathan Derque's French website is now broken but i formatted his tabl= es > > into these lists: > > http://mw.lojban.org/images/1/1e/lo_fraso_gimste.html > > http://mw.lojban.org/images/8/83/cmavo_selma%27o.html > > > > Since French smuvelcki are not for every gismu in jbovlaste I'm asking > you > > to check translations, notes and glosswords for these French gismu: > > > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11LkhR_q-DQDrPQogjt9NKGkFlUbDbAMPu= o8S > > 1rI11JM/edit?usp=3Dsharing > > > > > > Please leave comments or make corrections directly. If everything is ok= ay > > I'll mass-import those definitions into jbovlaste. > > I found "brazo" defined as =AB$x_1$ tient de la culture/nationalit=E9/lan= gue > br=E9silienne par l'aspect $x_2$=BB, but the gloss is =ABBr=E9silien=BB (= I added the > accent). Words like this when lowercase are adjectives (language or > nationality) or nouns referring to a language; capitalized, they are noun= s > referring to a person. Should they be capitalized? > > Pierre > -- > The Black Garden on the Mountain is not on the Black Mountain. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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I would say no, not capitalized, because the gloss should be= as general as possible.=A0

stevo


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:05 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.o= rg> wrote:
On Sunday, December 29, 20= 13 12:13:34 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Jonathan Derque's French website is now broken but i formatted his= tables
> into these lists:
> http://mw.lojban.org/images/1/1e/lo_fraso_gimste.html
> http://mw.lojban.org/images/8/83/cmavo_selma%27o.html
>
> Since French smuvelcki are not for every gismu in jbovlaste I'm as= king you
> to check translations, notes and glosswords for these French gismu: >
> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d= /11LkhR_q-DQDrPQogjt9NKGkFlUbDbAMPuo8S
> 1rI11JM/edit?usp=3Dsharing
>
>
> Please leave comments or make corrections directly. If everything is o= kay
> I'll mass-import those definitions into jbovlaste.

I found "brazo" defined as =AB$x_1$ tient de la culture/nat= ionalit=E9/langue
br=E9silienne par l'aspect $x_2$=BB, but the gloss is =ABBr=E9silien=BB= (I added the
accent). Words like this when lowercase are adjectives (language or
nationality) or nouns referring to a language; capitalized, they are nouns<= br> referring to a person. Should they be capitalized?

Pierre
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