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stevo On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ilmen wrote: > coi la gleki, > > I had a quick look through the cmavo list, > and everything looks fine; I only spotted a few grammatical mistakes: > > > # mu'e abstracteur *de ach=E8vement* (=E9v=E9nement); *x1 l'*=E9v=E9ne= ment > ponctuel/ach=E8vement de [bridi] > > mu'e abstracteur *d'=E9v=E8nement-point* (=E9v=E9nement); x1 *est*l'= =E9v=E9nement ponctuel/ach=E8vement de [bridi] > > # zu'o abstracteur d'activit=E9 (=E9v=E9nement); *x1* une abstraction > d'activit=E9 de [bridi] compos=E9e de x2 > > zu'o abstracteur d'activit=E9 (=E9v=E9nement); x1 *est* une abstract= ion > d'activit=E9 de [bridi] compos=E9e de x2 > > # ju'a je sp=E9cifie (par d=E9faut) base elliptique/non sp=E9cifi= que > > ^ As for ju'a, the dash in the gimste led the traductor to treat the part > at the right of the dash as the definition of {ju'a cu'i} (it's put in th= e > cu'i column); this should be fixed too. > > Besides, I think {je'e}'s definition is a little clearer this way: > > > je'e roger (message re=E7u) > > > BTW you may want to put the same thread in the French mailing list (if yo= u > want I'll translate your message and post it there tomorrow). > > mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o > > ______________________ > > > On 29/12/2013 09:13, Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > Jonathan Derque's French website is now broken but i formatted his > tables into these lists: > http://mw.lojban.org/images/1/1e/lo_fraso_gimste.html > http://mw.lojban.org/images/8/83/cmavo_selma%27o.html > > Since French smuvelcki are not for every gismu in jbovlaste I'm asking > you to check translations, notes and glosswords for these French gismu: > > > https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/11LkhR_q-DQDrPQogjt9NKGkFlUbDbAMPu= o8S1rI11JM/edit?usp=3Dsharing > > > Please leave comments or make corrections directly. 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stevo


On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 1:19 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
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coi la gleki,

I had a quick look through
the cmavo list, and everything looks fine; I only spotted a few grammatical mistakes:


# mu'e=A0=A0=A0 abstracteur de ach=E8vem= ent (=E9v=E9nement); x1 l'=E9v=E9= nement ponctuel/ach=E8vement de [bridi]
> mu'e=A0=A0=A0 abstracteur d'=E9= v=E8nement-point (=E9v=E9nement); x1 est l'=E9= v=E9nement ponctuel/ach=E8vement de [bridi]

# zu'o=A0=A0=A0 abstracteur d'activit=E9 (=E9v=E9nement); x1 une abstraction d'activit=E9 de [bridi] compos=E9e de x2
> zu'o=A0=A0=A0 abstracteur d'activit=E9 (=E9v=E9nement); x1= est une abstraction d'activit=E9= de [bridi] compos=E9e de x2

# ju'a=A0 je sp=E9cifie=A0=A0=A0 =A0=A0=A0 (par d=E9faut) base elli= ptique/non sp=E9cifique

^ As for ju'a, the dash in the gimste led the traductor to treat th= e part at the right of the dash as the definition of {ju'a cu'i} = (it's put in the cu'i column); this should be fixed too.

Besides, I think {je'e}'s definition is a little clearer this w= ay:

> je'e=A0=A0=A0 roger (message re=E7u)


BTW you may want to put the same thread in the French mailing list (if you want I'll translate your message and post it there tomorrow).

mi'e la .ilmen. mu'o

______________________


On 29/12/2013 09:13, Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
Jonathan Derque's French website is now broken but i formatted his tables into these lists:

Since French smuvelcki are not for every gismu in jbovlaste I'm asking you to check translations, notes and glosswords fo= r these French gismu:



Please leave comments or make corrections directly. If everything is okay I'll mass-import those definitions into jbovlaste.


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