Received: from mail-pa0-f55.google.com ([209.85.220.55]:48834) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VxRjj-00044i-8J for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:50 -0800 Received: by mail-pa0-f55.google.com with SMTP id fb1sf2643594pad.10 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=x_cmae_category:from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=nHvCKAtL0QqpugZLhGvp9SQO5w4FHl1ShG3RiJCUU0U=; b=gspHKsMkYJliHpnhZbzkbA23q7AbiOdBYBaRhFnQQG3ILzAya2eYrzfwDEXBxHDs4U LxhKeIA4NvwaMDIRJ3GtQDXK4BIrh5/tp1td8l+X2y8cmzsZukif7R5re0eB5ho56OW6 5ONrqWd3vzjXdfGpWJEfqn4MKn5FvoGvpojC+h2ZFfvr9HCxdihg0uZbpVsZxHChk6ox rU2VKOaRaT22G+4r4YgdXxfUNwuw7A+fi0fezsl/TyWhRf38/arj3k6yt2H1Ag5OtvFl 6vwOy808BUmeKgH1/AKhBBSydl95A3ySvBwVd1UR0LikJtTNTn9NybC3I6U9BEyYDJMw u8lw== X-Received: by 10.50.128.71 with SMTP id nm7mr916635igb.15.1388367216395; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.136.170 with SMTP id qb10ls5061346igb.37.gmail; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.193.104 with SMTP id hn8mr34144pac.46.1388367216039; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:36 -0800 (PST) Received: from smtp.hughes.net (smtp-fo.hughes.cmh.synacor.com. [69.168.97.50]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id m5si4825816igk.2.2013.12.29.17.33.35 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 17:33:35 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=69.168.97.50; X_CMAE_Category: 0,0 Undefined,Undefined X-CNFS-Analysis: v=2.1 cv=Btukn+n5 c=1 sm=0 tr=0 a=Z2Pgg/vgYxdHLJ9+hxtZow==:117 a=Z2Pgg/vgYxdHLJ9+hxtZow==:17 a=K-v-2zaBAAAA:8 a=_WQhAotw1e0A:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=xqWC_Br6kY4A:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=4RBUngkUAAAA:8 a=nbMA0mSJcMqYN57OaoAA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=r2v04TWgiwYA:10 a=YVttj-dDl9kA:10 X-CM-Score: 0 X-Scanned-by: Cloudmark Authority Engine Received-SPF: neutral (smtp02.hughes.cmh.synacor.com: 67.44.192.11 is neither permitted nor denied by domain of bezitopo.org) Received: from [67.44.192.11] ([67.44.192.11:2863] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by smtp.hughes.net (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.49 r(42060/42061)) with ESMTPSA (cipher=AES256-SHA) id 46/C5-21114-E6DC0C25; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:33:35 -0500 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [IPv6:::1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id D2650128 for ; Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:33:22 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: [lojban] jabre Date: Sun, 29 Dec 2013 20:33:21 -0500 Message-ID: <3090870.nEXt0rnepa@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-57-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 69.168.97.50 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / I'm up to "jabre" in the fraso gimste and I'm not sure I've been using it= =20 right (in my thoughts). Is x1 the brake pedal and is x3 friction? Or is x1 = the=20 driver and is x3 the brake? Also, what would you call a clutch? It seems to be a sort of inverse brake:= it=20 has friction when not depressed, and it keeps the car moving when there is= =20 friction. Pierre --=20 La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.