Received: from mail-pd0-f185.google.com ([209.85.192.185]:55597) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1VxYAY-0006P6-T6 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:58 -0800 Received: by mail-pd0-f185.google.com with SMTP id x10sf2630528pdj.12 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zIBwlsznHOMr4EPUAKiOf8Sg7NwCLhsZA43jA0akPe0=; b=F0AS2pA8C3gBHs1viBR/5XjuJzPwwUWIuVn0+47x3hjKfeKg042Dv0ks3AXb+q8Xab dSYJUPxJUzBAqlhvPH6V0m2xAU1Nev3TpVPGGR7lo/lOWSEOE7BuETIN28rLcQ9Vieq4 zN/xknPVGYc/nq5N3Z9s7n6NpvnNgXdctTiNGVMS+J2KsdFDW6HTG+wbv2dhq5GkKa1i U2zmsIx6aLdu5YtcblM/e9/HdDW82aODarRK4KiK89BB8kIweZk/8wXHVeOla+MKuLvb AXx9tTfpw3io4L0sjPpvCskKFkpy7nHh/Qe04w0y6Yrcjf7SoWFveAtqgpUAe1F6PB+r pkJQ== X-Received: by 10.50.152.105 with SMTP id ux9mr158607igb.13.1388391941863; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.109.135 with SMTP id hs7ls5193134igb.7.gmail; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.22.206 with SMTP id p14mr18990159icb.18.1388391941601; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x22b.google.com (mail-vc0-x22b.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t9si4477qcn.2.2013.12.30.00.25.41 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b; Received: by mail-vc0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ik5so5766585vcb.16 for ; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.53.4.38 with SMTP id cb6mr602231vdd.89.1388391941336; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:41 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.186.136 with HTTP; Mon, 30 Dec 2013 00:25:10 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <3090870.nEXt0rnepa@caracal> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Mon, 30 Dec 2013 03:25:10 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] jabre To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1133ee1a78f70304eebc30bb X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a1133ee1a78f70304eebc30bb Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable And x3 would include the brake pedal as part of the device/mechanism. stevo On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:23 AM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I'd expect it to be the latter: x1 is the driver and x3 is the brake > . > How would you say "The boy braked the car"? "lo nanla ku jabre lo karce"? > stevo > >=20 > > > On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > >> I'm up to "jabre" in the fraso gimste and I'm not sure I've been using i= t >> right (in my thoughts). Is x1 the brake pedal and is x3 friction? Or is >> x1 the >> driver and is x3 the brake? >> >> Also, what would you call a clutch? It seems to be a sort of inverse >> brake: it >> has friction when not depressed, and it keeps the car moving when there = is >> friction. >> >> Pierre >> -- >> La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre. >> Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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And x3 would include the brake pedal as part of the device/m= echanism.=A0

stevo


On Mon, Dec 30, 2013 at 3:23 AM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail= .com> wrote:
I'd expec= t it to be the latter:=A0x1 is the=A0driver and x3=A0is=A0the brake .
How would you say "The boy braked the c= ar"? "lo nanla ku jabre lo karce"?
stevo



On Sun, Dec 2= 9, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:<= br>
I'm up to "jabre" in the fraso gimste and I'm not sure I&= #39;ve been using it
right (in my thoughts). Is x1 the brake pedal and is x3 friction? Or is x1 = the
driver and is x3 the brake?

Also, what would you call a clutch? It seems to be a sort of inverse brake:= it
has friction when not depressed, and it keeps the car moving when there is<= br> friction.

Pierre
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La sal en el mar es m=E1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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