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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: coi selpa'i I was puzzled by the use of logic connectives in several passages. E.g. 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(1) {z=E0sti fa no sai dr=F9sro je no lolnitk=F9'a} (2) {no tr=ECcu je no zd=E0ni cu zv=E0ti} I see there is some consistency in their correlation with quantifiers, but still I don't get it. What is the logic behind them? They are rejected by both camxes and jboski, but accepted by the parser you indicated. Nevertheless, the parser also understands {ko'a je ko'e broda} just like {ko'a .e ko'e broda}. Is it related to expansion order? mu'o mi'e .asiz. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --90e6ba6e8d1c68f8c504ef3b4f42 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
coi selpa'i

I was puzzled by the use of lo= gic connectives in several passages. E.g.

(1) {z=E0sti fa no sai dr= =F9sro je no lolnitk=F9'a}
(2) {no tr=ECcu je no zd=E0ni cu zv=E0ti}=

I see there is some consistency in their correlation with quantifie= rs, but still I don't get it. What is the logic behind them?

They are rejected by both camxes and jboski, but accepted by the parser= you indicated. Nevertheless, the parser also understands {ko'a je ko&#= 39;e broda} just like {ko'a .e ko'e broda}. Is it related to expans= ion order?

mu'o mi'e .asiz.

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