Received: from mail-bk0-f58.google.com ([209.85.214.58]:59619) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1Vzwzd-0007au-8b for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:42 -0800 Received: by mail-bk0-f58.google.com with SMTP id my13sf1710737bkb.13 for ; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:21 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:references:mime-version :content-type:content-disposition:in-reply-to:user-agent :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe; bh=SSY3wjzAzkkX9I3lgjwODRVKuxNmLI9yWjBc/vXog10=; b=YmFYBMNzRXqX0tw8GIxO03czxMVM7zKvxQkOxzIHdChkxkLk3Zb7fQOJecCQAOjTSO mz4r7IE3QzBLzY5yLPJe2OhuxCuc0HaZRQIgk+taY16gDCm7Gjoh6v4yz63pNExj29jm qkH1zgKq6Qnnjwgh/uMRxnVjEGf8mMPrwOQ4N9UyzIZZQkxzI2wIQFGh03RTtqyCRi87 ADOFJTACBDOX+jlbNNp3E+2m651wSFb0FA4bGktNmYG4mbgCrwJKHCxyyl9gOfuSogJ2 rpObMRTaYejwWW1I1Wj6QN+wJ8Dr8eJb//Db3olB3KfDz82FqENL8p/nbqJuX9M7g7Bd X8eA== X-Received: by 10.152.234.170 with SMTP id uf10mr715256lac.3.1388964021629; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:21 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.115.179 with SMTP id jp19ls943735lab.59.gmail; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:20 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.161.197 with SMTP id xu5mr40200925lbb.7.1388964020760; Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received: from dd17822.kasserver.com (dd17822.kasserver.com. [85.13.138.119]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si609273eez.0.2014.01.05.15.20.20 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 05 Jan 2014 15:20:20 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) client-ip=85.13.138.119; Received: from samsa (brln-4dbc0594.pool.mediaWays.net [77.188.5.148]) by dd17822.kasserver.com (Postfix) with ESMTPA id A5BCC860269 for ; Mon, 6 Jan 2014 00:20:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 6 Jan 2014 00:20:18 +0100 From: v4hn To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [oz] {lo prenu cu cmamau lo makcu} Message-ID: <20140105232018.GE7778@samsa.fritz.box> References: <52C98ADE.3000601@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="KJY2Ze80yH5MUxol" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <52C98ADE.3000601@gmx.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Original-Sender: me@v4hn.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 85.13.138.119 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of me@v4hn.de) smtp.mail=me@v4hn.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --KJY2Ze80yH5MUxol Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline On Sun, Jan 05, 2014 at 05:39:58PM +0100, selpa'i wrote: > la .asiz. cu cusku di'e > > {lo prenu cu cmamau lo makcu poi dy ke'a se slabu}. > > > >The plausible interpretation is of course distributive, > > {ro lo prenu cu cmamau ro lo makcu}. > > > >But, if predicates are to be defined on plural variables, shouldn't the > >original sentence mean that the bunch of prenu is, collectively, smaller > >than the bunch of makcu? I'm not even sure what "being collectively smaller" is supposed to mean, really. I know it's out of fashion, but this seems to be a perfectly good place to use {lo'e}. {lo prenu cu cmamau lo'e makcu poi dy ke'a se slabu} v4hn --KJY2Ze80yH5MUxol Content-Type: application/pgp-signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iEYEARECAAYFAlLJ6LIACgkQMBKLZs4+wjzURACeNB5tXiQ27Zq2A2Ej2o8Uj9G1 Y7IAni74p1jG0FaV/4G889PAS0Qs0tvs =tDSX -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --KJY2Ze80yH5MUxol--