Received: from mail-lb0-f191.google.com ([209.85.217.191]:38197) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W0DFA-0004rJ-LP for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:55 -0800 Received: by mail-lb0-f191.google.com with SMTP id q8sf1589615lbi.18 for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=q0Ey3SAIMLOCL40hb0sLfPGxSjKOWE0fqCH4qOLDtCE=; b=I94eECyo6D/P3BxODTSPv6S/Q1VAqU1/Etwi2YpL/YsPA72WX2xTlU0tWCVyNeUsOP jWvHtKMmFm2BQVDhsUldk7rY0W5ELp1rTO6gqkaqowyBEhM0YfFPy2gGJgjT0oEV3ZeW xjkvqpeko9/CNQtF8YozmrKwVT/tFAO1WrivQF4Ino5jyLvkcI6fKzkd7n99TSgVuUr2 YHRYKa4riV6soXfBDlLfmzvGwVmd5FaxH+6kgy5TEdGMRDtrD4HXPBRjJ1TKjTBVc62a AXTatBMlPEAln+NttQFf9jeNMq4cimbGDVmVxXQz7qIa4l8TWKsdG3hUAt3T0dowf72l gtyQ== X-Received: by 10.152.22.37 with SMTP id a5mr1375611laf.4.1389026488346; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:28 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.87.141 with SMTP id ay13ls809121lab.56.gmail; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:27 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.87.104 with SMTP id w8mr41951692laz.8.1389026487943; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net. [212.227.17.20]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b3si467548eez.0.2014.01.06.08.41.27 for (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Jan 2014 08:41:27 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) client-ip=212.227.17.20; Received: from [192.168.2.108] ([93.220.110.203]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0Ln7wj-1VUQG22P5J-00hQJG for ; Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:41:27 +0100 Message-ID: <52CADCB8.5090907@gmx.de> Date: Mon, 06 Jan 2014 17:41:28 +0100 From: selpa'i User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.2.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] [oz] {laldo} vs. {tolci'o} References: In-Reply-To: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:ckfbLdDJowMDwMHiOy6jNqFOck9fWInSVlAH4gaJwhZsX0Gol+U 4vs7E88LBFdG2ku6deHjI7Of1wexe7irfEmsY8CK8Vc3BJCueYUkQraTjkZ94uWCQGiFk7r b/4dxI8E61UpmEBDECALCvsXXHw5puAUOgjeWVdQnExc7due+Tk0JSuJLlbvv5ivvpRi+Lw fiE32oJMuNjX+pwtJlCdw== X-Original-Sender: seladwa@gmx.de X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of seladwa@gmx.de designates 212.227.17.20 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=seladwa@gmx.de Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / la .asiz. cu cusku di'e > coi selpa'i (to ta'o .e'o mi'e ba'e *la* selpa'i toi) > In your translation, both {laldo} and {tolci'o} occur. In > http://jbovlaste.lojban.org/dict/laldo > the notes include "(= tolci'o)". > > Do you really use them interchangeably? They mean exactly the same to me. I'm not too happy about needing {to'e} to get the opposites of so many gismu (I would prefer them to be separate gismu), but I know that {laldo} is not official. I think where I used it in the text, I was just too lazy to write {tolci'o}. mi'e la selpa'i mu'o -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.