Received: from mail-vb0-f61.google.com ([209.85.212.61]:35209) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W0Yhk-0005xt-9Y for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:41 -0800 Received: by mail-vb0-f61.google.com with SMTP id w20sf59423vbb.26 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=YRUfF0BarREbNjmk4FK2ZXC/VkDWRmnV4lZbai7v+IM=; b=ekJGjr/mUtIqNTEGy7y5wfcQLwUNWzoDkV9FL9lf5e9GYWDCtXWclz13/nVIsbTXs2 +GJ/Sg0y4hUzro+6fNTjcbmwC3hqo2SDQ9JBFVHfmIF367K7fEacaJbcSUxgoghl84hy PztxLgYOA26pS9GaJmZM0DvLSNI6htkBqFx8ets8mZYMy6qBu9TLcFxiA0E8+j7Dt+Rf KIafiBmBB9VQG7cH2cNrqoMK8NvCiVeqOUbtsibHDFcBFGSaIhvvDBdc02Xxg6cLlc6g wnx0wer/EI4nQ3Fnitg5oUTfPZUYrbiDC5lKBRX00V5Zilu/H9lt5Iu9jeeutT6vzT54 SRaQ== X-Received: by 10.49.29.8 with SMTP id f8mr326403qeh.10.1389108986000; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:26 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.106.102 with SMTP id gt6ls192747qeb.78.gmail; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.34.2 with SMTP id v2mr37778950vei.25.1389108985447; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x22b.google.com (mail-ie0-x22b.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id 48si2737516yhf.7.2014.01.07.07.36.25 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b; Received: by mail-ie0-f171.google.com with SMTP id ar20so534192iec.16 for ; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.42.156.67 with SMTP id y3mr17038659icw.46.1389108985010; Tue, 07 Jan 2014 07:36:25 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.223.166 with HTTP; Tue, 7 Jan 2014 07:36:24 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1414927.l4KtTEqoDl@caracal> References: <1414927.l4KtTEqoDl@caracal> Date: Tue, 7 Jan 2014 13:36:24 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] [oz] vau gi From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=90e6ba6e8d1c9b237904ef6323ad X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --90e6ba6e8d1c9b237904ef6323ad Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable jbofi'e is not following the CLL. I had the same confusion with the construction. Check http://dag.github.io/cll/9/8/ That makes it a bug. Can we fix it? mu'o mi'e .asiz. On 7 January 2014 10:05, Pierre Abbat wrote: > =AB.e'o va'o gi do v=ECmcu lo gr=E0na gi mi m=F9tce lo ka ck=ECre do=BB > I'm not familiar with the "BAI gi" construction, so I ran it through > jbofi'e, > and it parses. But it says: > {request} you [is, does] removing any/some rod/pole under conditions I, m= e > [is, does] being extreme any/some property of being grateful you > i.e. "You remove a pole under the condition that I will be very grateful = to > you", which sounds backward. 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jbofi'e is not following the CLL. I had the same confu= sion with the construction. Check
http://dag.github.io/cll/9/8/

That makes it a bug. Can we fi= x it?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 7 January 2014 10:05, Pierre Abbat <phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org> wrote:
=AB.e'o va'o gi do v=ECmcu lo gr=E0n= a gi mi m=F9tce lo ka ck=ECre do=BB
I'm not familiar with the "BAI gi" construction, so I ran it = through jbofi'e,
and it parses. But it says:
{request} you [is, does] removing any/some rod/pole under conditions I, me<= br> [is, does] being extreme any/some property of being grateful you
i.e. "You remove a pole under the condition that I will be very gratef= ul to
you", which sounds backward. Is it?

Pierre
--
li ze te'a ci vu'u ci bi'e te'a mu du
li ci su'i ze te'a mu bi'e vu'u ci

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