Received: from mail-gg0-f186.google.com ([209.85.161.186]:41260) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W1CQ0-0000Q6-Bm for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:01:08 -0800 Received: by mail-gg0-f186.google.com with SMTP id 21sf565933ggh.23 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:46 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=TdjQxtSKfbmfOz2K2G5riYsjzHNwF4MaU6nyS9Jy4Uo=; b=YM16Yi4XUTSnEEKTLiRiwYig9hgwIR5HCQCb9kT7vcwLgVkM1ckKSbbO97fOrwthJj pDYiebG0QJuspGbMbdYsfyCCl3SXFALuamM5DH65Q1Y9UXUusrlNtkifARXM3UElir/a x6pBmqMiZoLNgvyKgnFBLlJTCUaW9KUt5FiPEvdFKV3SmRV1k+7slSGvFMIakqaqtUZn sQoYN26TYiLFqjKodhCrbdJoDO9QL0ecZW/jrb31hyl5dnlqgrUa7o2ZRyLkt4aYv2HA dbNPxn0irJqhoczP1dIs6STnyf9c5KkWAZQ6P1bHdJtm00tTBqqdrT/6yrCjUlS+ufMO Wh1A== X-Received: by 10.49.35.45 with SMTP id e13mr38425qej.7.1389261646180; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:46 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.101.39 with SMTP id fd7ls975153qeb.16.gmail; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.20.114 with SMTP id o78mr731696yho.8.1389261645603; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ie0-x236.google.com (mail-ie0-x236.google.com [2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id o30si1195370yhn.1.2014.01.09.02.00.45 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236; Received: by mail-ie0-f182.google.com with SMTP id as1so3351201iec.13 for ; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.147.72 with SMTP id ti8mr37295591igb.20.1389261645198; Thu, 09 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.64.223.166 with HTTP; Thu, 9 Jan 2014 02:00:45 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <1629546.cMRg7GgG0A@caracal> References: <2110398.3dttylR5Gv@caracal> <52CDC23B.5070607@gmx.de> <1629546.cMRg7GgG0A@caracal> Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 08:00:45 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] [oz] {dizlo tonga} From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4001:c03::236 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0122a310dcbc4c04ef86aec8 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e0122a310dcbc4c04ef86aec8 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Just tossing some ideas. I guess the best way to decide is to put things in perspective: Collect a bunch of similar useful concepts and see how we can assign different lujvo to each one in a coherent way. I don't care if the exact meaning of a lujvo is not obvious from its constituents. By the way, don't forget to consider tremolos and vibratos, which are periodic modulations of amplitude and frequency of a wave. They are the oscillations children can perceive in sound. mu'o mi'e .asiz. On 8 January 2014 20:34, Pierre Abbat wrote: > On Wednesday, January 08, 2014 22:25:15 selpa'i wrote: > > la .pier. cu cusku di'e > > > > > We say "snosli tonga". > > > > (Who is this "we"?) > > I forget who else, but I've seen "mlisnosli" and "tcesnosli" for "tenor" > and > "bass". > > > Back on topic, while the idea is good, I'd say the lujvo should be > > {slisno}, not {snosli}. Then again, the place structure of {slilu}, > > specifically its x2, makes it a bit meaningless to use {masno} on it. > > There doesn't seem to be a difference between "oscillating quickly at > > 1Hz" and "oscillating slowly at 1Hz"; neither is faster or slower than > > the other. Because of that x2, I think the better lujvo would be > > {cmasli} (and {brasli}). > > I think "cmasli" better fits an oscillation with a small amplitude. > > Pierre > -- > loi mintu se ckaji danlu cu jmaji > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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Just tossing some ideas.

I guess the best way = to decide is to put things in perspective: Collect a bunch of similar usefu= l concepts and see how we can assign different lujvo to each one in a coher= ent way. I don't care if the exact meaning of a lujvo is not obvious fr= om its constituents.

By the way, don't forget to consider tremolos and vibrat= os, which are periodic modulations of amplitude and frequency of a wave. Th= ey are the oscillations children can perceive in sound.

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.




On 8 January 20= 14 20:34, Pierre Abbat <phma@leaf.dragonflybsd.org>= wrote:
On Wednesday, January 08, = 2014 22:25:15 selpa'i wrote:
> la .pier. cu cusku di'e
>
> > We say "snosli tonga".
>
> (Who is this "we"?)

I forget who else, but I've seen "mlisnosli" and "= tcesnosli" for "tenor" and
"bass".

> Back on topic, while the idea is good, I'd say the lujvo should be=
> {slisno}, not {snosli}. Then again, the place structure of {slilu}, > specifically its x2, makes it a bit meaningless to use {masno} on it.<= br> > There doesn't seem to be a difference between "oscillating qu= ickly at
> 1Hz" and "oscillating slowly at 1Hz"; neither is faster= or slower than
> the other. Because of that x2, I think the better lujvo would be
> {cmasli} (and {brasli}).

I think "cmasli" better fits an oscillation with a small am= plitude.

Pierre
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