Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::231;
MIME-Version: 1.0
In-Reply-To: <CAO7bV+iUbfkpimnnxkEXtDDVaQhdAytiAUB+YMR2u3+bQ2XibA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAO7bV+g+7Tpfr1pFA1eTmbuH-z=Wjihd7y-VNU4iMFaK9N9F_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<12800FE4-E251-4658-9295-9F5BB1A64776@lojban.se>
	<CAO7bV+iUbfkpimnnxkEXtDDVaQhdAytiAUB+YMR2u3+bQ2XibA@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Thu, 9 Jan 2014 09:35:58 -0500
Message-ID: <CAKOEKkS4ZsdAsEFcp9qNbZ_OybrVRPbsG9c7iYVjRZC0BKtCpQ@mail.gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [lojban] "salty"
From: Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com
Precedence: list
Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com
Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com
Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b5db12420d19404ef8a870c
X-Spam_score: 0.0
X-Spam_score_int: 0
X-Spam_bar: /

--047d7b5db12420d19404ef8a870c
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

  I also completely dislike the idea of adding experimental gismu, at least
until baseline is finally lifted  (and even then, in most cases), except in
cases where absolutely necessary (and sarni and salni ain't them).  In any
case, your (lorxus'?) original argument is at best specious, because just
like in languages such as English, the default for tersilna is zo'e, which
means, in normal conversation, when you say "ko dunda  lo silna mi" or "lo
rectu cu se vrusi lo ka silna", your listener is going to assume "...be fi
lo sodna be lo ratni be li papa kuku joi lo kliru be lo ratni be li paze",
unless you specify otherwise, or you are working in lab with e.g. radium
salts, or your listener is insane.

    There is really no need for people to always try to complicate matters
by multiplying gismu (or using overly precise lujvo or fu'ivla) when not
necessary,

                  --gejyspa

-- 
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group.
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.
Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban.
For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.

--047d7b5db12420d19404ef8a870c
Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

<div dir=3D"ltr">=A0 I also completely dislike the idea of adding experimen=
tal gismu, at least until baseline is finally lifted =A0(and even then, in =
most cases), except in cases where absolutely necessary (and sarni and saln=
i ain&#39;t them). =A0In any case, your (lorxus&#39;?) original argument is=
 at best specious, because just like in languages such as English, the defa=
ult for tersilna is zo&#39;e, which means, in normal conversation, when you=
 say &quot;ko dunda =A0lo silna mi&quot; or &quot;lo rectu cu se vrusi lo k=
a silna&quot;, your listener is going to assume &quot;...be fi lo sodna be =
lo ratni be li papa kuku joi lo kliru=A0be lo ratni be li paze&quot;, unles=
s you specify otherwise, or you are working in lab with e.g. radium salts, =
or your listener is insane. =A0<div>
<br></div><div>=A0 =A0 There is really no need for people to always try to =
complicate matters by multiplying gismu (or using overly precise lujvo or f=
u&#39;ivla) when not necessary,</div><div><br></div><div>=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =
=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 --gejyspa</div>
<div><br></div></div>

<p></p>

-- <br />
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups &=
quot;lojban&quot; group.<br />
To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e=
mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com.<br />
To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com.<br />
Visit this group at <a href=3D"http://groups.google.com/group/lojban">http:=
//groups.google.com/group/lojban</a>.<br />
For more options, visit <a href=3D"https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out=
">https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out</a>.<br />

--047d7b5db12420d19404ef8a870c--