Received: from mail-oa0-f62.google.com ([209.85.219.62]:39379) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W2LoH-0004Ff-77 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:59 -0800 Received: by mail-oa0-f62.google.com with SMTP id m1sf1511566oag.27 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=date:from:to:subject:message-id:in-reply-to:references:mime-version :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type :content-transfer-encoding; bh=aKbB4MR37csFyoP41FUIVvnbPcrVhIs7kEVRd5VB8DE=; b=es3Y6A4NDxmQBflbrIUxrHLJk+Dqe9qVCDmqzkPygFubJ8Di4hr19MA3OhxzQE6fx7 3hTL1xkaS41vHhvp+Ll8GqjjTxhq4fXB7crFts7Lwiz21+kqm2hh+tPilyVqB0nqh3UG FYFCHIgeoSLLd1DmmREj6vYsXfdKqvsquKTz0+mjIUGuJ2+q2ycYyzUhjApiAXeiDqv/ eNvNM5SCqUqx51nZmkBAPfYJrsNZqvlztlBei+mCeytyr6rQMChgMj+/fOBioLyQPVqs sWfkF74qjJ6T08lybrmevfv8QTwCH2ExYHroTcwrYEY6If9A6pP/w4YD3wmGSf+smdU8 PPuw== X-Received: by 10.49.16.105 with SMTP id f9mr2924qed.27.1389536075076; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:35 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.71.142 with SMTP id v14ls2075283qeu.35.gmail; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.224.38.206 with SMTP id c14mr5256822qae.4.1389536074428; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from omr-m05.mx.aol.com (omr-m05.mx.aol.com. [64.12.143.79]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id h4si4898615qch.3.2014.01.12.06.14.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sun, 12 Jan 2014 06:14:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.79 as permitted sender) client-ip=64.12.143.79; Received: from mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com [172.26.133.109]) by omr-m05.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 4A268700000BC for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:14:34 -0500 (EST) Received: from localhost.localdomain (p549FB5EB.dip0.t-ipconnect.de [84.159.181.235]) by mtaout-mba01.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 81CDE38000093 for ; Sun, 12 Jan 2014 09:14:33 -0500 (EST) Date: Sun, 12 Jan 2014 15:14:30 +0100 From: Wuzzy To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Quoting with ZOI can be ambigious Message-ID: <20140112151430.30041d34@aol.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20140110185840.22249c17@aol.com> <20140111213308.24fa31c4@aol.com> Mime-Version: 1.0 x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1a856d52d2a3490687 X-AOL-IP: 84.159.181.235 X-Original-Sender: almikes@aol.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of almikes@aol.com designates 64.12.143.79 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=almikes@aol.com; dkim=neutral (bad format) header.i=@mx.aol.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / Am Sat, 11 Jan 2014 14:04:47 -0700 schrieb Jonathan Jones : > Personally, I think that the practice of omitting *mandatory* periods > in Lojban text should be stopped altogether, in part because it leads > to problems like this, but mainly because the practice breaks > iso-morphism. Good point! But it=92s not only a practise, it is also part of the official language. The Reference Grammar explicitly states all points are optional. Which means the official language has only *almost* audio-visual iso-morphism. So either the official language must change to achieve audio-visual iso-morphism or any claims that Lojban has audio-visual iso-morphism must be dropped. --=20 Wuzzy XMPP: Wuzzy2@jabber.ccc.de E-Mail: wuzzy2@mail.ru --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.