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Subject: Re: [lojban] Re: "Moral dessert"?
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  There is an experimental gismu, krali, invented by tijlan, that does what
you want.  But since I'm not a fan of most experimental gismu (until
baseline removed.....I should live so long), another way to think about
might be in the zifre/pacna/ or even bilga fields (the latter case being
everyone else's obligation to the agent, but that's probablyl a bit of a
stretch).

         --gejyspa


On Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com> wrote:

> Thanks. However, the definition of {jerna} speaks of "wages/salary/pay",
> which does seem to fit in My opinion.
>
> On Tuesday, December 24, 2013, Alex Rozenshteyn wrote:
>
>> {jerna}? Possibly {jerna fi zi'o}. {.i ta'o} in English, it's spelled
>> "desert" when used that way.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 24, 2013 at 1:17 AM, Frank <frankdmartinez@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> coi
>>>
>>> I am trying to construct a word and/or phrase which means something
>>> along the lines of "x1 deserves x2". For example: "Everyone deserves a
>>> supportive Spouse" or "People deserve respect until proven otherwise". I
>>> don't know why but I am having trouble constructing the
>>> "deserves/deserving/inherently-earns-just-because-of-existence" part. Any
>>> insights on this problem would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> ki'e .i mi'e xuinkrbin.
>>>
>>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">=C2=A0 There is an experimental gismu, krali, invented by =
tijlan, that does what you want. =C2=A0But since I&#39;m not a fan of most =
experimental gismu (until baseline removed.....I should live so long), anot=
her way to think about might be in the zifre/pacna/ or even bilga fields (t=
he latter case being everyone else&#39;s obligation to the agent, but that&=
#39;s probablyl a bit of a stretch).<div>
<br></div><div>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa</div><div><br></=
div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On =
Wed, Dec 25, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Frank <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:frankdmartinez@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">frankdmartinez@gmail.com</a>&g=
t;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Thanks. However, the definition of=C2=A0{jer=
na} speaks of &quot;wages/salary/pay&quot;, which does seem to fit in My op=
inion.<div class=3D"HOEnZb">
<div class=3D"h5"><div><span></span><br>On Tuesday, December 24, 2013, Alex=
 Rozenshteyn  wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0=
 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr">{jerna}? Possibly {jerna fi zi&#39;o}. {.i ta&#39;o} in En=
glish, it&#39;s spelled &quot;desert&quot; when used that way.<br></div><di=
v class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 24, =
2013 at 1:17 AM, Frank <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a>frankdmartinez@gmail.com</a=
>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">coi<div><br></div><div>I am trying to constr=
uct a word and/or phrase which means something along the lines of &quot;x1 =
deserves x2&quot;. For example: &quot;Everyone deserves a supportive Spouse=
&quot; or &quot;People deserve respect until proven otherwise&quot;. I don&=
#39;t know why but I am having trouble constructing the &quot;deserves/dese=
rving/inherently-earns-just-because-of-existence&quot; part. Any insights o=
n this problem would be appreciated.</div>


<div><br></div><div>ki&#39;e .i=C2=A0mi&#39;e xuinkrbin.</div><span><font c=
olor=3D"#888888"><br><br>-- <br>P.S.: I prefer to be reached on BitMessage =
at BM-2D8txNiU7b84d2tgqvJQdgBog6A69oDAx6<br>

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