Received: from mail-pb0-f64.google.com ([209.85.160.64]:55411) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W4CHq-0005yR-0o for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:58 -0800 Received: by mail-pb0-f64.google.com with SMTP id un15sf137448pbc.19 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:43 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=qrmMBo9oXY7fajUqUkGIjeA+QTJLmzpQ8RKHpESHx+M=; b=SZvGYhFWGNL3s1EfernLT+cqc0Z2lBeXxIJNqzHwEp/pwOAUpyUDgSTjN+zOMNsJtr A9NAWDnxNR3q6eqPeHGTk7BEKphT2LqRcrIR82g9yQbW5SbF/ydsKN+V4dMyR7ybfj7p NnBskoWHaWPd3SzR5O0U2pZqv/JYKu/icvKl4YqoosyMuf9ox371e7KAv1B0Z6vI3g7u NaduyJwMg/zM9CU1eTTLhyOmgqQISzF6R+ezfqZQXO/m5pXbU4a0qsNPcp+xADgttiLQ P9p4VCpMN3vSyR6AC+QXsJBkalx6Kon8n5/sG0TV5vOlje3f3ebwiKfhFpv5FyfkbAPh tQBw== X-Received: by 10.140.109.244 with SMTP id l107mr34634qgf.28.1389976123232; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:43 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.49.99.71 with SMTP id eo7ls1247267qeb.20.gmail; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.236.92.202 with SMTP id j50mr948591yhf.26.1389976122748; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qc0-x232.google.com (mail-qc0-x232.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t9si625763qcn.2.2014.01.17.08.28.42 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232; Received: by mail-qc0-f178.google.com with SMTP id m20so3733825qcx.23 for ; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.140.107.53 with SMTP id g50mr4350101qgf.63.1389976122671; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.161.99 with HTTP; Fri, 17 Jan 2014 08:28:42 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <3090870.nEXt0rnepa@caracal> References: <3090870.nEXt0rnepa@caracal> Date: Fri, 17 Jan 2014 11:28:42 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] jabre From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a113a6a2209c96a04f02d095e X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a113a6a2209c96a04f02d095e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I read x1 as active agent, i.e. the driver. --gejyspa On Sun, Dec 29, 2013 at 8:33 PM, Pierre Abbat wrote: > I'm up to "jabre" in the fraso gimste and I'm not sure I've been using it > right (in my thoughts). Is x1 the brake pedal and is x3 friction? Or is x= 1 > the > driver and is x3 the brake? > > Also, what would you call a clutch? It seems to be a sort of inverse > brake: it > has friction when not depressed, and it keeps the car moving when there i= s > friction. > > Pierre > -- > La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre. > Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a113a6a2209c96a04f02d095e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
=C2=A0I read x1 as active agent, i.e. the driver.

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On Sun, Dec 29= , 2013 at 8:33 PM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wrote:
I'm up to "jabre" in the fraso= gimste and I'm not sure I've been using it
right (in my thoughts). Is x1 the brake pedal and is x3 friction? Or is x1 = the
driver and is x3 the brake?

Also, what would you call a clutch? It seems to be a sort of inverse brake:= it
has friction when not depressed, and it keeps the car moving when there is<= br> friction.

Pierre
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La sal en el mar es m=C3=A1s que en la sangre.
Le sel dans la mer est plus que dans le sang.

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