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From: Robin Lee Powell <rlpowell@digitalkingdom.org>
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Subject: [lojban] HISTORIAN/general discussion: po (GOI) and sumtcita
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 Content preview:  (replies to the main list please) So it turns out that GOI
    (goi, ne, no'u, pe, po, po'e, po'u) can take sumtcita. In http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK%20Section:%20Subordinators
    , I asserted that for pe and ne (and presumably po, athough I didn't say
   that) this means "sumtcita applies to the relevant sumti", which is *HUGELY*
    useful; using "le broda po fa'a le brodi" in this sense comes up *every day*
    with the jbocifnu, usually in the form of "don't pee on the X" :). [...] 
 
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So it turns out that GOI (goi, ne, no'u, pe, po, po'e, po'u) can
take sumtcita.  In
http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK%20Section:%20Subordinators , I
asserted that for pe and ne (and presumably po, athough I didn't say
that) this means "sumtcita applies to the relevant sumti", which is
*HUGELY* useful; using "le broda po fa'a le brodi" in this sense
comes up *every day* with the jbocifnu, usually in the form of
"don't pee on the X" :).

So this is a thing in the language that literally *does not appear*,
even in brief reference, in the CLL.

My questions are:


0.  Can someone who has the old official parse running confirm that
this works there too and isn't some knid of weird regression?

1.  Does anyone know, historically, why this works?

2.  What should this mean with each member of GOI?  "With X it's
meaningless don't do that" is a reasonable response; "goi" is an
obvious target there.

Thanks.

-Robin

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