Received: from mail-pb0-f57.google.com ([209.85.160.57]:52064) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1W6ntO-0008PM-TF for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:02:37 -0800 Received: by mail-pb0-f57.google.com with SMTP id rq2sf682019pbb.2 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:02:17 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=AbHlFhGXhbTuAjBRJQ+c5bbpY7SRQOiFAUwaxVuKhuY=; b=JWrMmfoZoZuBBJvqCrexmRBSbY+p7h0d+Jb4p4oZUJvCtf9HxevDmSxkppkuZxGMHZ PSloKf06Eweo3/N7XP5L6sSUW0CS/Q936NMBbRbbIEG8ss5hsalnEpTXfDTUmadvViBM OoH9fJUhvT9chrG1VWIMeXo8uxKTb2O7k7HblKr4nWEa9a5ZmBmMoLv2E9VOLl15B7Ym M5owTZQE+4G6kpJyfLsi242dvu7cbWxHhUZMSq2Yolm/8vJGRbiO1qXrla9UW+pgKYd5 lXk/g/0pg6sjzyPFhbxc1fBwRpP6zJCr3ImKcRrh0tR1zG1IG2e1hDTB1Xq7WnqSeDIB 4PiQ== X-Received: by 10.50.124.225 with SMTP id ml1mr59214igb.0.1390597337115; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:02:17 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.13.6 with SMTP id d6ls1081823igc.44.canary; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:02:16 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.66.102.8 with SMTP id fk8mr5976121pab.24.1390597336523; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 13:02:16 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.224.42.202 with SMTP id t10msqae; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.59.12.105 with SMTP id ep9mr6337593ved.9.1390596279148; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id d9si148132yhl.2.2014.01.24.12.44.38 for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 12:44:39 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GMaK45xK c=1 sm=0 a=GbbTObCcR0DEgiyvVRM9bQ==:17 a=1TgBNrMDQccA:10 a=Xb9vgb4l0QkA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=LlzFzjEJNC0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=OaN3BRJrJmoA:10 a=z7ZdlqKokQEXt_IHA6cA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=GbbTObCcR0DEgiyvVRM9bQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 98.122.190.249 Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:50887] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 33/32-00728-6B0D2E25; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 20:44:38 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 90838563F for ; Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:44:37 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] HISTORIAN/general discussion: po (GOI) and sumtcita Date: Fri, 24 Jan 2014 15:44:35 -0500 Message-ID: <3041489.8hx0bT5De8@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-58-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: <52DC4E78.2050000@lojban.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Wednesday, January 22, 2014 10:39:12 Dan Ros=E9n wrote: > Interesting! >=20 > What would be the semantic difference between {lo SELBRI be TAG SUMTI} an= d > {lo SELBRI pe TAG SUMTI}? "lo renro be pa'o lo canko" means "one who throws something through a windo= w".=20 "lo renro pe pa'o lo canko" means "one who throws something and is stuck in= a=20 window". In the first phrase, the action of throwing passes through a windo= w;=20 in the second, the thrower passes through a window. Pierre --=20 Don't buy a French car in Holland. It may be a citroen. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.