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How to quickly create sentences From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b86cb682a840d04f152bb54 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --047d7b86cb682a840d04f152bb54 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves Assis < felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On 1 February 2014 03:54, Gleki Arxokuna wrot= e: > >> >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Pierre Abbat wrote: >> >> >>> "lo" does not make a noun. >> >> >> Then why {mlatu} =3D "... is a cat of breed ..." and {lo mlatu} =3D "a >> cat/the cat/cats/the cats"? >> >> > I guess Pierre meant that it is more of a noun phrase (or article phrase > as he said), and you probably don't bother because Russian doesn't have > articles, right? > idk how is that relevant. {bajra} =3D to run. {lo bajra} =3D a runner/the runner/runners. 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On Sat, Feb 1, 2014 at 10:14 AM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:



On 1 February 2014= 03:54, Gleki Arxokuna <gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com>= wrote:



On Sat,= Feb 1, 2014 at 8:28 AM, Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org> wr= ote:
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"lo" does not make a noun.

= Then why {mlatu} =3D "... is a cat of breed ..." =C2=A0and {lo ml= atu} =3D "a cat/the cat/cats/the cats"?


I guess Pierre me= ant that it is more of a noun phrase (or article phrase as he said), and yo= u probably don't bother because Russian doesn't have articles, righ= t?

idk how is that re= levant.
{bajra} =C2=A0=3D to run.
{lo bajra} =3D a runn= er/the runner/runners.
Clearly, brivla (verbs) are transformed in= to nouns using {lo}.
English article "the" can be translated using {le}, {bi'= unai} and other things.

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