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The first three are relatively easy, although the species names can be
difficult, especially depending on how to go about translating them (i.e.
for "nightingale" do we translate the common name which means "Night
Songstress" (which I'll loosely and quickly translate as {lo sanga be ti'u
lo nicte ku fetsi}) or use the Linnaen, "*Luscinia megarhynchos"* ({lo
cipni be la.lusinia,megarintcos.}?)

The fourth one requires knowing what you mean by "Underware". Wiktionary
just says it's a common misspelling of "underwear", and I'm sure that's not
what you mean.


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:14 AM, <bas@underware.nl> wrote:

> Here are the 4 lines of text which I'm trying to translate in Lojban. The
> translator can take lots of freedom, as I can imagine a literal translation
> is not possible. The most important would be that the structure remains the
> same. (This project is a hobby which started out of curiosity, but
> meanwhile grew out of hand. I've got 80 translations of this short text,
> but Lojban would be a real challenge).
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Bas
>
> ==
>
>
> Don't be a cuckoo if you're a nightingale.
>
> Don't be a nightingale or a flycatcher, if you're a dog.
>
> But anyone can make sound.
> We are "Underware".
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The first three are relatively easy, although the spe=
cies names can be difficult, especially depending on how to go about transl=
ating them (i.e. for &quot;nightingale&quot; do we translate the common nam=
e which means &quot;Night Songstress&quot; (which I&#39;ll loosely and quic=
kly translate as {lo sanga be ti&#39;u lo nicte ku fetsi}) or use the Linna=
en, &quot;<i>Luscinia megarhynchos&quot;</i> ({lo cipni be la.lusinia,megar=
intcos.}?)<br>
<br></div>The fourth one requires knowing what you mean by &quot;Underware&=
quot;. Wiktionary just says it&#39;s a common misspelling of &quot;underwea=
r&quot;, and I&#39;m sure that&#39;s not what you mean.<br></div><div class=
=3D"gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 1:14 AM,  <span d=
ir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bas@underware.nl" target=3D"_blank">bas@un=
derware.nl</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Here are the 4 lines of text which I&rsquo;m trying t=
o translate in Lojban. The translator can take lots of freedom, as I can im=
agine a literal translation is not possible. The most important would be th=
at the structure remains the same. (This project is a hobby which started o=
ut of curiosity, but meanwhile grew out of hand. I&rsquo;ve got 80 translat=
ions of this short text, but Lojban would be a real challenge).</div>
<div><br></div><div>Thanks in advance,</div><div>Bas</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>=3D=3D</div><div><br></div><div><br></div>


<p>Don&rsquo;t be a cuckoo if you&rsquo;re a&nbsp;nightingale.&nbsp;</p>
<p>Don&rsquo;t be a nightingale or a flycatcher, if you&rsquo;re a dog.&nbs=
p;</p>
<p>But anyone can make sound.&nbsp;</p>
<div><span style=3D"line-height:18px">We are &ldquo;Underware&rdquo;.</span=
>&nbsp;</div><div><br></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">

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