Received: from mail-ea0-f183.google.com ([209.85.215.183]:45915) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WAbkV-00035j-A5 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:53:06 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f183.google.com with SMTP id l9sf538465eaj.20 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:48 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=Z+dhoe5OZSntOra/1OSY7IlbzRXl4ol5/t1fEMDhUdU=; b=jZgmaJ7yzdZEyD1wtIwmxPp6nSxG1DhjdDeNi98mQ/oNJ9ACjlk4Zd+CYsrgvCDGKP La5/yayvquBnkSqfRIU/QvComhMenL4SO9XhwwZE1RSqtWTp/XDfro7ONmysnmSrydOB IVgazPUhzeKj7OhPKSuTpdd494hkbicShUX9yHZge2UMsighEgZfQVJjI54nLGOv3YQ3 1tTn//f5rJMf2Htg3G3vrJX3bLub4CjIFdXnaBDysj4XeqF/sx+9U4BeH6gyOBwWrR1J SADLz7ZGMPu5IO+nGmlnbebWkIjvKa32hr+n5wv6KxAtK9xy6vvdIbVXcrLSyojqPlFW MneA== X-Received: by 10.153.4.8 with SMTP id ca8mr469652lad.1.1391503967979; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.201.231 with SMTP id kd7ls407130lac.49.gmail; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.63.72 with SMTP id e8mr18827188lbs.2.1391503967426; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com (mail-we0-x22b.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id v8si552900wiw.2.2014.02.04.00.52.47 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b; Received: by mail-we0-x22b.google.com with SMTP id u56so3810228wes.30 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.86.200 with SMTP id r8mr881084wjz.49.1391503967307; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.82.135 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 00:52:47 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <20d23544-f290-4375-a5b1-4f7877747db3@googlegroups.com> References: <5c3089a5-ee11-4333-90da-0949df1c39a5@googlegroups.com> <529DB630.4070107@gmx.de> <1c70a014-4773-4425-8739-8c2f46a4a541@googlegroups.com> <20d23544-f290-4375-a5b1-4f7877747db3@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 12:52:47 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e010d8612acce8704f190c3bd X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e010d8612acce8704f190c3bd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:44 PM, lorxus wrote: > va'o do naitingeilrcpi > <-- this is not gendra. it breaks apart into two words. > vau ko na kukurcpi > .i va'o do gerku vau ko na naitingeilrcpi ja sfanykavbu > I agree that "fly catcher" is not a scientific name. flycatcher=3DAny of many kinds of birds, of the families Muscicapidae (in Europe and Asia) and Tyrannidae (in the Americas), that catch insects in flight. > .i ku'i ro da ka'e selsance > .i la'oi Underware cmene mi'a > .i zo'oi Underware cmene mi'a > -2'i Lorxus > > On Tuesday, February 4, 2014 3:14:39 AM UTC-5, b...@underware.nl wrote: >> >> Here are the 4 lines of text which I=E2=80=99m trying to translate in Lo= jban. The >> translator can take lots of freedom, as I can imagine a literal translat= ion >> is not possible. The most important would be that the structure remains = the >> same. (This project is a hobby which started out of curiosity, but >> meanwhile grew out of hand. I=E2=80=99ve got 80 translations of this sho= rt text, >> but Lojban would be a real challenge). >> >> Thanks in advance, >> Bas >> >> =3D=3D >> >> >> Don=E2=80=99t be a cuckoo if you=E2=80=99re a nightingale. >> >> Don=E2=80=99t be a nightingale or a flycatcher, if you=E2=80=99re a dog. >> >> But anyone can make sound. >> We are =E2=80=9CUnderware=E2=80=9D. >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 12:44 PM, lorxus <coronacoreanici@g= mail.com> wrote:
va'o do naitingeilrcpi
<-- this =C2=A0is not gendra. it breaks apart into two words.
=
=C2=A0
vau ko na kukurcpi
.i va'o do gerku vau ko na naiti= ngeilrcpi ja sfanykavbu

I agree t= hat "fly catcher" is not a scientific name.=C2=A0
flyca= tcher=3DAny of many kinds of birds, of the families Muscicapidae (in Europe= and Asia) and Tyrannidae (in the Americas), that catch insects in flight.<= /div>
=C2=A0
.i ku'i ro da ka= 'e selsance
.i la'oi Underware cmene mi'a

=
=C2=A0.i zo'oi Underware cmene mi'a


-2'i Lorxus

On Tuesday, = February 4, 2014 3:14:39 AM UTC-5, b...@underware.nl wrote:
Here are the 4 lines of text which I=E2=80=99m trying= to translate in Lojban. The translator can take lots of freedom, as I can = imagine a literal translation is not possible. The most important would be = that the structure remains the same. (This project is a hobby which started= out of curiosity, but meanwhile grew out of hand. I=E2=80=99ve got 80 tran= slations of this short text, but Lojban would be a real challenge).

Thanks in advance,
Bas

=3D=3D


Don=E2=80=99t be a cuckoo if you=E2=80=99re a=C2=A0nightingale.=C2=A0

Don=E2=80=99t be a nightingale or a flycatcher, if you=E2=80=99re a dog.= =C2=A0

But anyone can make sound.=C2=A0

We are =E2=80=9CUnderware=E2=80=9D.=C2=A0

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