Received: from mail-ea0-f183.google.com ([209.85.215.183]:41094) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WAcxm-0003hg-1I for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:54 -0800 Received: by mail-ea0-f183.google.com with SMTP id l9sf576623eaj.0 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:34 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=9XRC6it4Cm649Sq68pl6GhYbulKiB2F/FJQiSiL4DRE=; b=uJd0D+Nr/56tqcEi/jyOE++EvcvHbNe6bBTG+AevOzNihGVtax73pskdiZj5SZ6d1g DJV8cjX7G21ZUvC3RJASRchUtvjVz7RGQesJNJM0hzJDvFW0zjpYgUrfAhP+q14BH+Lk Intvi0ZzPsW32LqfuBj8arP/xYoJEazObp9BhIduiYY7P2+x7HXrHXMcZPM7do93+rAy vhm/RpstP80hlLllNU8EhKev/8SlHBvTr0S2YX+Ev9p2ZxmaP+kadWkq1L4q/sOPCh0r H/neZhYr6kc48JXBujFTYcUja3M17km7FSBJvaqgWSepM50OsViNmcN+tCD5Bb8D9pYC fqKw== X-Received: by 10.153.8.225 with SMTP id dn1mr2066lad.33.1391508634416; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:34 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.21.4 with SMTP id r4ls362345lae.51.gmail; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:34 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.63.72 with SMTP id e8mr18984231lbs.2.1391508634042; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-we0-x229.google.com (mail-we0-x229.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::229]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fl8si562475wib.1.2014.02.04.02.10.34 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:34 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::229 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::229; Received: by mail-we0-f169.google.com with SMTP id t61so3900452wes.14 for ; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:33 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.109.16 with SMTP id ho16mr9909652wib.3.1391508633913; Tue, 04 Feb 2014 02:10:33 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.194.82.135 with HTTP; Tue, 4 Feb 2014 02:10:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <5c3089a5-ee11-4333-90da-0949df1c39a5@googlegroups.com> <529DB630.4070107@gmx.de> <1c70a014-4773-4425-8739-8c2f46a4a541@googlegroups.com> Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 14:10:33 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Translation From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::229 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=e89a8f3bb049d38f1604f191d9b9 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --e89a8f3bb049d38f1604f191d9b9 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Jonathan Jones wrote: > >> >> the same syllabic number as the English. >> >> > > My apologies, I miscounted. It's one more than the English, two if you > count the {lo}, and after seeing Pierre's, I'm in agreement with him > regarding "nightingale". > > Oh, and {sfani bo kavbu} is fine. I was going to say maybe make it a > lujvo, but I see the rafsi for both of those suck. > Given that *ro lo ctesa'afe'i cu cipnrmuskikapida* one might translate it as "Don=E2=80=99t be a nightingale *whether or not* = a flycatcher, if you=E2=80=99re a dog. " > > -- > mu'o mi'e .aionys. > > .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o > (Come to the Dot Side! 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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:04 PM, Jonathan Jones &l= t;eyeonus@gmail.com<= /a>> wrote:
On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 2:51 AM, Jonathan Jones <eyeonus@gmail.com><= /span> wrote:
<snip>
the same syllabic number as the English.
<snip>

My apologies, I miscounted. It= 9;s one more than the English, two if you count the {lo}, and after seeing = Pierre's, I'm in agreement with him regarding "nightingale&quo= t;.

Oh, and {sfani bo kavbu} is fine. I wa= s going to say maybe make it a lujvo, but I see the rafsi for both of those= suck.

Given that ro lo= =C2=A0ctesa'afe'i cu=C2=A0cipnrmuskikapida

one might translate i= t as "Don=E2=80=99t be a nightingale whether or not a flycatche= r, if you=E2=80=99re a dog.=C2=A0"

--
mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be= denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, = I am your father. :D )

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