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The scientific method doesn't depend on the science it's used for. Having
"used in science x2" seems too limiting.
The scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study.
What might a full description or definition of scientific method be in
Lojban?

stevo


On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wrote:

> I propose {skelaltadji}.
> skelaltadji = x1 is the scientific method used in science x2.
>
> More importantly, the (short) lojban definition:
> .i x1 me lo tadji be lo nu lanli x2 noi saske
>
> The unusual part about my proposed lojban definition is the use of {me
> lo}. I use it here because there is a particular kind of method that we
> think of when we think of the scientific method. In other words, simply
> defining it as {x1 tadji lo nu ...} would be far too vague. Of course, a
> full Lojban definition would require explaning just what it is that the
> scientific method *is*; my proposed definition obvious doesn't cut it, in
> that regard.
>
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>
>
> On 16 January 2014 11:25, Murdoc <kolzene@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I tried asking about this in lojban Beginners first in case it has
>> already been settled, but apparently not. I tried searching this group, and
>> while one thread came close, it didn't answer my question.
>>
>> So my question is this: How do we say "the scientific method" in lojban?
>> As in: "I used science (as opposed to some other form of epistemology) to
>> (e.g. determine this conclusion/whatever)." "saske" obviously doesn't cut
>> it. I'm posting this here hoping others can come up with a solution. Aside
>> from the fact I'd like to have this word to use, it just seems odd to me
>> that the "logical language" would leave science out in the cold like this.
>> Can anyone help?
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier =
new,monospace">The scientific method doesn&#39;t depend on the science it&#=
39;s used for. Having &quot;used in science x2&quot; seems too limiting.=C2=
=A0</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">Th=
e scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study.=C2=A0</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">W=
hat might a full description or definition of scientific method be in Lojba=
n?=C2=A0</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monos=
pace">stevo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">I propose {skelaltadji}.<br>skelaltadji =3D x1 is the scie=
ntific method used in science x2.<br><br>More importantly, the (short) lojb=
an definition:<br>.i x1 me lo tadji be lo nu lanli x2 noi saske<br><br>The =
unusual part about my proposed lojban definition is the use of {me lo}. I u=
se it here because there is a particular kind of method that we think of wh=
en we think of the scientific method. In other words, simply defining it as=
 {x1 tadji lo nu ...} would be far too vague. Of course, a full Lojban defi=
nition would require explaning just what it is that the scientific method *=
is*; my proposed definition obvious doesn&#39;t cut it, in that regard.<br>


<br>.i mi&#39;e la tsani mu&#39;o<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=
=3D"h5"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 16=
 January 2014 11:25, Murdoc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kolzene=
@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">kolzene@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I tried asking about t=
his in lojban Beginners first in case it has already been settled, but appa=
rently not. I tried searching this group, and while one thread came close, =
it didn&#39;t answer my question.<br>


</div><div><br></div><div>So my question is this: How do we say &quot;the s=
cientific method&quot; in lojban? As in: &quot;I used science (as opposed t=
o some other form of epistemology) to (e.g. determine this conclusion/whate=
ver).&quot; &quot;saske&quot; obviously doesn&#39;t cut it. I&#39;m posting=
 this here hoping others can come up with a solution. Aside from the fact I=
&#39;d like to have this word to use, it just seems odd to me that the &quo=
t;logical language&quot; would leave science out in the cold like this. Can=
 anyone help?</div>


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