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What would it be in English, come to that?

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On Feb 4, 2014, at 14:19, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:

> The scientific method doesn't depend on the science it's used for. Having=
 "used in science x2" seems too limiting.=20
> The scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study.=20
> What might a full description or definition of scientific method be in Lo=
jban?=20
>=20
> stevo
>=20
>=20
> On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jacob Errington <nictytan@gmail.com> wro=
te:
> I propose {skelaltadji}.
> skelaltadji =3D x1 is the scientific method used in science x2.
>=20
> More importantly, the (short) lojban definition:
> .i x1 me lo tadji be lo nu lanli x2 noi saske
>=20
> The unusual part about my proposed lojban definition is the use of {me lo=
}. I use it here because there is a particular kind of method that we think=
 of when we think of the scientific method. In other words, simply defining=
 it as {x1 tadji lo nu ...} would be far too vague. Of course, a full Lojba=
n definition would require explaning just what it is that the scientific me=
thod *is*; my proposed definition obvious doesn't cut it, in that regard.
>=20
> .i mi'e la tsani mu'o
>=20
>=20
> On 16 January 2014 11:25, Murdoc <kolzene@gmail.com> wrote:
> I tried asking about this in lojban Beginners first in case it has alread=
y been settled, but apparently not. I tried searching this group, and while=
 one thread came close, it didn't answer my question.
>=20
> So my question is this: How do we say "the scientific method" in lojban? =
As in: "I used science (as opposed to some other form of epistemology) to (=
e.g. determine this conclusion/whatever)." "saske" obviously doesn't cut it=
. I'm posting this here hoping others can come up with a solution. Aside fr=
om the fact I'd like to have this word to use, it just seems odd to me that=
 the "logical language" would leave science out in the cold like this. Can =
anyone help?
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<html><head></head><body bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF"><div>What would it be in Engli=
sh, come to that?<br><br>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On Feb 4, 2014, at=
 14:19, MorphemeAddict &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lytlesw@gmail.com">lytlesw@gma=
il.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br><br></div><div></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courie=
r new,monospace">The scientific method doesn't depend on the science it's u=
sed for. Having "used in science x2" seems too limiting.&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">Th=
e scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study.&nbsp;</div=
><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace">W=
hat might a full description or definition of scientific method be in Lojba=
n?&nbsp;</div>

<div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monospace"><b=
r></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:courier new,monos=
pace">stevo</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gma=
il_quote">

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 4:18 PM, Jacob Errington <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:nictytan@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">nictytan@gmail.com</a>&=
gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 =
0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">

<div dir=3D"ltr">I propose {skelaltadji}.<br>skelaltadji =3D x1 is the scie=
ntific method used in science x2.<br><br>More importantly, the (short) lojb=
an definition:<br>.i x1 me lo tadji be lo nu lanli x2 noi saske<br><br>The =
unusual part about my proposed lojban definition is the use of {me lo}. I u=
se it here because there is a particular kind of method that we think of wh=
en we think of the scientific method. In other words, simply defining it as=
 {x1 tadji lo nu ...} would be far too vague. Of course, a full Lojban defi=
nition would require explaning just what it is that the scientific method *=
is*; my proposed definition obvious doesn't cut it, in that regard.<br>


<br>.i mi'e la tsani mu'o<br></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">=
<div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 16 January=
 2014 11:25, Murdoc <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kolzene@gmail.c=
om" target=3D"_blank">kolzene@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>


<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>I tried asking about t=
his in lojban Beginners first in case it has already been settled, but appa=
rently not. I tried searching this group, and while one thread came close, =
it didn't answer my question.<br>


</div><div><br></div><div>So my question is this: How do we say "the scient=
ific method" in lojban? As in: "I used science (as opposed to some other fo=
rm of epistemology) to (e.g. determine this conclusion/whatever)." "saske" =
obviously doesn't cut it. I'm posting this here hoping others can come up w=
ith a solution. Aside from the fact I'd like to have this word to use, it j=
ust seems odd to me that the "logical language" would leave science out in =
the cold like this. Can anyone help?</div>


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