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Date: Tue, 4 Feb 2014 20:56:50 -0200
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Subject: Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo
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On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Dan Ros=E9n <lurifax@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> I'm using the expansions suggested in
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+gadri, where
>
>
>     lo pa xanto =3D zo'e noi ke'a xanto gi'e zilkancu li pa lo xanto,
>
> but {lo xanto} can be plural, so this removes the effect of the zilkancu
> part. Is it that I misunderstand this equation, or is it just false?
>
>
I don't think it's quite right to say that "lo xanto" can be plural,
because Lojban doesn't have grammatical number, so it can't strictly be
singular or plural. But a natural translation of "lo xanto" in this context
would indeed be plural in English, something like "is 1 counting in
elephants".

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Dan Ros=E9n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<=
a href=3D"mailto:lurifax@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">lurifax@gmail.com</a>=
&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra">=
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div><br>I&#39;m using the expansions suggested =
in <a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+gadri" target=3D"_bl=
ank">http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section:+gadri</a>, where<div class=3D=
"im">
<br><br>

=A0=A0=A0 lo pa xanto =3D zo&#39;e noi ke&#39;a xanto gi&#39;e zilkancu li =
pa lo xanto,<br>
<br></div>but {lo xanto} can be plural, so this removes the effect of the z=
ilkancu part. Is it that I misunderstand this equation, or is it just false=
? <br><br></div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I don=
9;t think it&#39;s quite right to say that &quot;lo xanto&quot; can be plur=
al, because Lojban doesn&#39;t have grammatical number, so it can&#39;t str=
ictly be singular or plural. But a natural translation of &quot;lo xanto&qu=
ot; in this context would indeed be plural in English, something like &quot=
;is 1 counting in elephants&quot;.</div>
<div><br></div><div>mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br></div></div></di=
v></div>

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