Received: from mail-vc0-f187.google.com ([209.85.220.187]:56745) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WB9gQ-0001d1-3w for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:59 -0800 Received: by mail-vc0-f187.google.com with SMTP id ld13sf225617vcb.14 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=0B0/dbxOCyx6LAq6w5xGlKYdy2ZFyIQTKdXu7PDMWWc=; b=dycmPqIDzQgSAhQkxCKgPXyUlRZuHGKowEDIXctHTNWFd3WhY59sur5RKR9zBdD8fN 1J8WOgnvIHnEDSkWjF/Mv8c5cX4vJtANPf4kal7iZ6YDEyVJt8sklufPt2AVhXb+0DIf AsZZqpfD+1Y1wJXYw1W6PSDqyArRnl2E+LsjEDZUgaQkE/zeb6MJHJcEEiuxk7mH9rz+ rkp8oBebz9Y69GvnAzW6cblrBPGM0+b/YPnJbCV0GGWcPBqVBR6fHVMISkbqzKTO5FTR hnL+AMHJkrheMu85WFBL2OY+Nn0vGGie7FIUAi5dn8ktHRr+b4ZkiI8iAQv2Xml8Qptu FtXw== X-Received: by 10.140.105.54 with SMTP id b51mr88810qgf.29.1391634411825; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.140.20.100 with SMTP id 91ls334268qgi.18.gmail; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.58.120.76 with SMTP id la12mr19740753veb.21.1391634411407; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qc0-x233.google.com (mail-qc0-x233.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id j9si532496qch.1.2014.02.05.13.06.51 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233; Received: by mail-qc0-x233.google.com with SMTP id e16so1663453qcx.10 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.11.196 with SMTP id u4mr6669261qau.4.1391634411261; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.3.3 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 13:06:51 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0f438513-25ad-4873-993a-ea57be6607de@googlegroups.com> <01D744F7-A809-4684-9DE7-D471569D1803@yahoo.com> <1391624552.48806.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 16:06:51 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Scientific Method From: Michael Turniansky To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: mturniansky@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of mturniansky@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c01::233 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=mturniansky@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e013cba96bddb7104f1af2223 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e013cba96bddb7104f1af2223 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I was considering adding the repetition factor, but, then, I thought, plenty of studies are only done once (by a given team), to disprove/add credence to a theory, and never repeated with different variations. --gejyspa On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > I didn't see your definition (or just didn't understand it). There's > nothing in your definition about feedback or repetition of the steps. It > doesn't happen just once. > > stevo > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michael Turniansky wrote: > >> I thought I prety much defined it: >> smadi jo'u cipyzu'e jo'u zgana terske >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, John E Clifford wr= ote: >> >>> And mine that this whole discussion is irrelevant: we don't need to say >>> what the scientific method is to have a word for it. >>> >>> *From:* MorphemeAddict >>> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:49 AM >>> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Scientific Method >>> >>> My point was that there are better sources available to answer the >>> question than me. >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John E. Clifford wrote: >>> >>> Well, what they claim to try to do. >>> >>> >>> Sent from my iPad >>> >>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 17:39, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>> >>> That's what Google and Wikipedia et al. are good for. >>> >>> stevo >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves Assis < >>> felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On 4 February 2014 18:19, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>> >>> The scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study. >>> What might a full description or definition of scientific method be in >>> Lojban? >>> >>> >>> What might a full description be in English? >>> >>> >>> mu'o >>> mi'e .asiz. >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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=C2=A0 I was considering adding the repetition factor, but= , then, I thought, plenty of studies are only done once (by a given team), = to disprove/add credence to a theory, and never repeated with different var= iations.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa


<= /div>


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com&= gt; wrote:
I didn't see your definit= ion (or just didn't understand it). There's nothing in your definit= ion about feedback or repetition of the steps. It doesn't happen just o= nce.=C2=A0
stevo


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.= com> wrote:
=C2=A0 I thought I prety much defined it:
smadi jo'u cipyzu&= #39;e jo'u zgana terske


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
And mine that this whole discussion is irrelevant: we d= on't need to say what the scientific method is to have a word for it.= =C2=A0

From: MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 201= 4 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban= ] Scientific Method

My point was that there are better sources available to answer the qu= estion than me.=C2=A0

stevo<= /div>


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John E. Cliff= ord <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, what they claim to try to do.


Se= nt from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2014, at 17:39, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

That's what Google and Wikipedia et al. are good for.=C2=A0

stevo


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves As= sis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>



On 4 February 2014 18:= 19, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrot= e:
The scientific m= ethod is much broader than just analysis or study.=C2=A0
What might a full description= or definition of scientific method be in Lojban?=C2=A0

=

What might a full description be in English?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.
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