Received: from mail-pb0-f56.google.com ([209.85.160.56]:63719) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WBAet-0001uo-0Z for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:34 -0800 Received: by mail-pb0-f56.google.com with SMTP id rp16sf237871pbb.21 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=zV9cmiQdllqykjkngfCtqkclUOLZ3Rh0U924XLCi8qA=; b=Qd3GWXvggCUJv1NPk+i++TpnJqh7NGpg/N7PlEl+zQXGE4KYhSh+0nHGERxrKUvAUw Rg5HpsvfLiuteoDm451mAO3XSFW15nas+FVyPbkmS9musV+uIRiU6aSiK8RIW42G6tPw UqvKEnJ891vdQYd0Gd7J9KopUTLRPQ9xhFPu1h0Va/MlMaYEUaU3kUdLxQwa65Nxlpcs VQlzOlvKCKBYVx8B8Cnt3739LMExukbgM97I7Fv2zIheahnpjJkh1JgGV14CsNgiFo6U sDDFymHTUDLBjeLvi/NAgBW5jFSYPDt51TrLlJLw6Mg2Q+TszDKQlwQ8eQUzlg/bdFd7 aaPg== X-Received: by 10.50.234.163 with SMTP id uf3mr93911igc.4.1391638159726; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.66.178 with SMTP id g18ls613589igt.40.gmail; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.50.124.9 with SMTP id me9mr11391013igb.4.1391638159357; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-vc0-x22d.google.com (mail-vc0-x22d.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ai11si5695042vdc.3.2014.02.05.14.09.19 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d; Received: by mail-vc0-f173.google.com with SMTP id ld13so798871vcb.4 for ; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.52.164.203 with SMTP id ys11mr2136559vdb.37.1391638159236; Wed, 05 Feb 2014 14:09:19 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.58.33.230 with HTTP; Wed, 5 Feb 2014 14:08:49 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: <0f438513-25ad-4873-993a-ea57be6607de@googlegroups.com> <01D744F7-A809-4684-9DE7-D471569D1803@yahoo.com> <1391624552.48806.YahooMailNeo@web181102.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> From: MorphemeAddict Date: Wed, 5 Feb 2014 17:08:49 -0500 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Scientific Method To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: lytlesw@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of lytlesw@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c03::22d as permitted sender) smtp.mail=lytlesw@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c2cc402322e104f1b002d6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c2cc402322e104f1b002d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable A single study, regardless of how many times it's repeated, isn't 'science'. It's just one of the iterations of the implied algorithm of the definition. Science never stops. stevo On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Michael Turniansky w= rote: > I was considering adding the repetition factor, but, then, I thought, > plenty of studies are only done once (by a given team), to disprove/add > credence to a theory, and never repeated with different variations. > --gejyspa > > > > > On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM, MorphemeAddict wrote: > >> I didn't see your definition (or just didn't understand it). There's >> nothing in your definition about feedback or repetition of the steps. It >> doesn't happen just once. >> >> stevo >> >> >> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michael Turniansky > > wrote: >> >>> I thought I prety much defined it: >>> smadi jo'u cipyzu'e jo'u zgana terske >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, John E Clifford w= rote: >>> >>>> And mine that this whole discussion is irrelevant: we don't need to sa= y >>>> what the scientific method is to have a word for it. >>>> >>>> *From:* MorphemeAddict >>>> *To:* lojban@googlegroups.com >>>> *Sent:* Wednesday, February 5, 2014 11:49 AM >>>> *Subject:* Re: [lojban] Scientific Method >>>> >>>> My point was that there are better sources available to answer the >>>> question than me. >>>> >>>> stevo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John E. Clifford >>> > wrote: >>>> >>>> Well, what they claim to try to do. >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPad >>>> >>>> On Feb 4, 2014, at 17:39, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>>> >>>> That's what Google and Wikipedia et al. are good for. >>>> >>>> stevo >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves Assis < >>>> felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 February 2014 18:19, MorphemeAddict wrote: >>>> >>>> The scientific method is much broader than just analysis or study. >>>> What might a full description or definition of scientific method be in >>>> Lojban? >>>> >>>> >>>> What might a full description be in English? >>>> >>>> >>>> mu'o >>>> mi'e .asiz. >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "lojban" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> Groups "lojban" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>> an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >>> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Group= s >> "lojban" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send a= n >> email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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A single study, regardless of how many times it's repeat= ed, isn't 'science'. It's just one of the iterations of the= implied algorithm of the definition. Science never stops.=C2=A0
stevo


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 4:06 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.= com> wrote:
=C2=A0 I was considering adding the repetition factor, but= , then, I thought, plenty of studies are only done once (by a given team), = to disprove/add credence to a theory, and never repeated with different var= iations.
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0--gejyspa


<= /div>


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:38 PM,= MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrote:
I didn't see your definit= ion (or just didn't understand it). There's nothing in your definit= ion about feedback or repetition of the steps. It doesn't happen just o= nce.=C2=A0
stevo


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 3:13 PM, Michael Turniansky <mturniansky@gmail.= com> wrote:
=C2=A0 I thought I prety much defined it:
smadi jo'u cipyzu&= #39;e jo'u zgana terske


On Wed, Feb 5, 2014 at 1:22 PM, John E Clifford <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
And mine that this whole discussion is irrelevant: we d= on't need to say what the scientific method is to have a word for it.= =C2=A0

From: MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>
To: lojban@googlegroups.com
<= span style=3D"font-weight:bold">Sent: Wednesday, February 5, 201= 4 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [lojban= ] Scientific Method

My point was that there are better sources available to answer the qu= estion than me.=C2=A0

stevo<= /div>


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 10:01 PM, John E. Cliff= ord <kali9putra@yahoo.com> wrote:
Well, what they claim to try to do.


Se= nt from my iPad

On Feb 4, 2014, at 17:39, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com>= ; wrote:

That's what Google and Wikipedia et al. are good for.=C2=A0

stevo


On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 5:17 PM, Felipe Gon=C3=A7alves As= sis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:<= br>



On 4 February 2014 18:= 19, MorphemeAddict <lytlesw@gmail.com> wrot= e:
The scientific m= ethod is much broader than just analysis or study.=C2=A0
What might a full description= or definition of scientific method be in Lojban?=C2=A0

=

What might a full description be in English?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.
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