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Subject: [lojban] Hole
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How do you translate "hole" in the sense of an opening in a solid, as in
"there is a hole in my bucket!"?

There is {kevna}, but it is clearly defined to mean a cavity, not a passage.

There is {fenra}, but it appears to be of a different shape.

jbovlaste has {greke'a}, which suggests a more general reading of {kevna}.

selpa'i has used {nonselsfe}. I guess a sphere is a nonselsfe. I use
{korbi} for surfaces in general, but {nonselkoi} would be something
unbounded, or an open set in topology.

I have used {canko} in the past, but it needs the right context. How would
I differentiate a hole in a wall or ship from a window?

A more general {kevna} would be useful when you don't know how a hole ends.

Ideas?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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<div dir=3D"ltr">How do you translate &quot;hole&quot; in the sense of an o=
pening in a solid, as in &quot;there is a hole in my bucket!&quot;?<br><div=
><br>There is {kevna}, but it is clearly defined to mean a cavity, not a pa=
ssage.<br>
<br>There is {fenra}, but it appears to be of a different shape.<br><br>jbo=
vlaste has {greke&#39;a}, which suggests a more general reading of {kevna}.=
<br><br>selpa&#39;i has used {nonselsfe}. I guess a sphere is a nonselsfe. =
I use {korbi} for surfaces in general, but {nonselkoi} would be something u=
nbounded, or an open set in topology.<br>
<br>I have used {canko} in the past, but it needs the right context. How wo=
uld I differentiate a hole in a wall or ship from a window?<br><br>A more g=
eneral {kevna} would be useful when you don&#39;t know how a hole ends.<br>
<br>Ideas?<br><br>mu&#39;o<br>mi&#39;e .asiz.<br></div></div>

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