Received: from mail-la0-f56.google.com ([209.85.215.56]:32958) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WBylW-0000Lm-C0 for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:50 -0800 Received: by mail-la0-f56.google.com with SMTP id hr13sf261707lab.11 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:30 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:date:message-id:subject:from:to:x-original-sender :x-original-authentication-results:reply-to:precedence:mailing-list :list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive:sender:list-subscribe :list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=vUajZZcwLkcRKe23Yti1gUbeqbFhRd+KKVbxzTu3kXA=; b=ZYlgNaUoyr910TPIlVMTaXjSGtOi7Vi5MYjb28GTDV7mxuPqEu97JVLBEr9oKThe4m f0Nfw6GBIRJYW0ghD7eMoON60D68+mTXIf0CvDnDIVOjssYSNZTAPoe2EHjm6LrOknaD pfZbid42vrPGOVs3SPM4s0hD/Gdes4B9PPmXI6uhInj9hlhSd1o/wxoz/vSE/GM1ezAw 8DpzcCu2DSLUiMzwROHb46xb9qnsIrNjaHY6JxRNgU9J0Q0VlHgopjK2l2ajODC5hpa/ 03VTKBnMYia/HyYvomxJZP7iElcrOx2SUlaDqNzJMlHKdpaPH5mAhsqedeJg53koNYiq T2ig== X-Received: by 10.152.36.70 with SMTP id o6mr152206laj.3.1391830770620; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:30 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.166.198 with SMTP id zi6ls206154lab.21.gmail; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:30 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.112.166.170 with SMTP id zh10mr7592408lbb.0.1391830770260; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-la0-x232.google.com (mail-la0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c03::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z12si929894bkg.3.2014.02.07.19.39.30 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:30 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c03::232; Received: by mail-la0-f50.google.com with SMTP id ec20so3339673lab.9 for ; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:29 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.73.100 with SMTP id k4mr11788926lbv.25.1391830769835; Fri, 07 Feb 2014 19:39:29 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.61.136 with HTTP; Fri, 7 Feb 2014 19:39:29 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 01:39:29 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: [lojban] "three times as big" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c03::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c243589fa59604f1dcdaa1 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --001a11c243589fa59604f1dcdaa1 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable This sentence from oz made me think: {lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cpu my ku'o fo lo p=EClj= i be li ki'o} It is fine as it is, but I guess the intended meaning is "the vehicle was a thousand times bigger than each rat", while it means something like "1001 times bigger", since zmadu4 is the difference. This is irrelevant for big inexact numbers, but what if I wanted to say, e.g., "three times bigger"? Would I have to say {bramau fo lo pilji be li re}? What about "three times smaller"? Should I use logarithms? For round numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g. {lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we devise a lujvo schema? mu'o mi'e .asiz. --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --001a11c243589fa59604f1dcdaa1 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
This sentence from oz made me think:
{lo m=E0rce c= u br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cpu my ku'o fo lo p=EClji be = li ki'o}

It is fine as it is, but I guess the intended meaning i= s "the vehicle was a thousand times bigger than each rat", while = it means something like "1001 times bigger", since zmadu4 is the = difference.

This is irrelevant for big inexact numbers, but what if I wa= nted to say, e.g., "three times bigger"? Would I have to say {bra= mau fo lo pilji be li re}? What about "three times smaller"? Shou= ld I use logarithms?

For round numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say= , e.g.
{lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about othe= r numbers? Can we devise a lujvo schema?

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

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