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[68.230.241.213]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id vn2si1499282igb.2.2014.02.08.02.57.37 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 02:57:38 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.213 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) client-ip=68.230.241.213; Received: from eastrmimpo305 ([68.230.241.237]) by eastrmfepo101.cox.net (InterMail vM.8.01.05.09 201-2260-151-124-20120717) with ESMTP id <20140208105737.RBRO3872.eastrmfepo101.cox.net@eastrmimpo305> for ; Sat, 8 Feb 2014 05:57:37 -0500 Received: from [192.168.0.103] ([72.209.248.61]) by eastrmimpo305 with cox id Pmxd1n00F1LDWBL01mxdqZ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:57:37 -0500 X-CT-Class: Clean X-CT-Score: 0.00 X-CT-RefID: str=0001.0A020202.52F60DA1.006D,ss=1,re=0.000,fgs=0 X-CT-Spam: 0 X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=BJhtWisG c=1 sm=1 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:17 a=ygNaTn0in3EA:10 a=1y_egNeQUBYA:10 a=xmHE3fpoGJwA:10 a=IkcTkHD0fZMA:10 a=8YJikuA2AAAA:8 a=Ftd027UEu_gA:10 a=pGLkceISAAAA:8 a=EYRXiFyyWkRTtC4nQAIA:9 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=MSl-tDqOz04A:10 a=z9jnGXjs1dxvEuWvIXKNSw==:117 X-CM-Score: 0.00 Message-ID: <52F60DA3.4080507@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:57:39 -0500 From: Robert LeChevalier User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.3.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo References: <52F26B9E.2090001@gmx.de> <5e023b9a-515c-432b-a389-8f9af4766b51@googlegroups.com> <52F29ED8.1050607@gmx.de> In-Reply-To: X-Original-Sender: lojbab@lojban.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 68.230.241.213 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of lojbab@lojban.org) smtp.mail=lojbab@lojban.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On 2/6/2014 8:58 PM, guskant wrote: > > > Le vendredi 7 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 06:22:09 UTC+9, xorxes a =C3=A9crit : > > > On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:34 AM, guskant wrote: > > > Although it will become out of topic, I have another suggestion > related to the BPFK page of gadri. > > "Any term without an explicit outer quantifier is a constant" > should be changed to > "Any term without an explicit outer quantifier can be a constant"= , > because an usual predicate logic has an axiom on a constant c > that "F(c) {inaja} there is at least one (individual) x such > that F(x)"; > > > That applies to singular constants, whereas unquantified terms need > not be singular, but the version with plural quantifiers will still > be valid. > > > > Actually, there is no explicit plural qiantifier in Lojban, though > implicitly there are. su'ore is the plural quantifier lojbab --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. 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