Received: from mail-yh0-f55.google.com ([209.85.213.55]:38398) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WC87b-0002t5-4s for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:39:16 -0800 Received: by mail-yh0-f55.google.com with SMTP id f73sf1130736yha.20 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=enWxX14fF6JxLVABZrL1cbVBn8ljKS3A1vO1o3zhgpk=; b=o4duYF+86TZPTNSrlpDx1tVGBq5Bawz5u+S6Uf/rjrtXIk4RYpmSikU1rBR2iWp4EK m7jwNBm/hEShQfXK9A7HAebovxYzQYqPGk0C//sUpg4wHQ7ouFyCpklJIV8+qAtXcLxf +YAcGLhabthALUgXNkbjfoVZOdVqLfKx3Y2oji/I3ZDGhmLXxPDHOFT4PWqaTEBSaLAZ bArUmJfqG+8ZILhLOH7rvYtN7ofE37nt5ZZZ1CAEmUCBbTXNIbQge6lIAhSpzSQL62X3 udU1P1kbNR1nnPbpPPMtLW6fLQhk5KQC9jZQOMzxlfIiQkeDgtx7MD0ZaodLaN+uFO/m VPmg== X-Received: by 10.50.66.233 with SMTP id i9mr92914igt.17.1391866736780; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.50.61.237 with SMTP id t13ls1145111igr.38.canary; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.42.51.141 with SMTP id e13mr2134556icg.28.1391866736429; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-qa0-x231.google.com (mail-qa0-x231.google.com [2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id eb2si2514593qcb.0.2014.02.08.05.38.56 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231 as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231; Received: by mail-qa0-x231.google.com with SMTP id w8so6929043qac.22 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.224.122.20 with SMTP id j20mr31797583qar.82.1391866736318; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 05:38:56 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.96.188.65 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Feb 2014 05:38:55 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <52F60ED3.2060401@lojban.org> References: <52F26B9E.2090001@gmx.de> <5e023b9a-515c-432b-a389-8f9af4766b51@googlegroups.com> <52F29ED8.1050607@gmx.de> <52F372FF.1000201@gmx.de> <8719cd89-816c-43a6-8d96-02c3b8a08e3e@googlegroups.com> <52F60ED3.2060401@lojban.org> Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 06:38:55 -0700 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] Individuals and xorlo From: Jonathan Jones To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: eyeonus@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of eyeonus@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400d:c00::231 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=eyeonus@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0149c18664b9a704f1e53a9a X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e0149c18664b9a704f1e53a9a Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG wrote: > > Nora hasn't the time to read and consider this thread in depth, but she > wonders whether the cmavo lu'a (and its relatives) doesn't resolve this > issue. At least it was intended that these words would resolve ambiguity > between individuals and the mass(es) comprised of them. > > lojbab > Do either of {lu'a soi'u no'o broda} = broda[no'o] = "The typical example of a single thing which [is|does|] broda.", and if not, what is? I that specific meaning is what they're looking for. {to lu le pamoi gadri .e le remoi gadri cu simxu lo ka kakne lo pamoi gadri li'u smuni za'e zo soi'u noi simsa zo soi toi} -- mu'o mi'e .aionys. .i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o (Come to the Dot Side! Luke, I am your father. :D ) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --089e0149c18664b9a704f1e53a9a Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On S= at, Feb 8, 2014 at 4:02 AM, Bob LeChevalier, President and Founder - LLG <= lojbab@lojban.org> wrote:

Nora hasn't the time to read and consider this thread in depth, but she= wonders whether the cmavo lu'a (and its relatives) doesn't resolve= this issue. =A0At least it was intended that these words would resolve amb= iguity between individuals and the mass(es) comprised of them.

lojbab

Do either= of {lu'a soi'u no'o broda} =3D broda[no'o] =3D "The t= ypical example of a single thing which [is|does|<etc.>] broda.",= and if not, what is? I that specific meaning is what they're looking f= or.

{to l= u le pamoi gadri .e le remoi gadri cu simxu lo ka kakne lo pamoi gadri li&#= 39;u smuni za'e zo soi'u noi simsa zo soi toi}

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mu'o mi'e .aionys.

.i.e'ucai ko cmima lo pilno be= denpa bu .i doi.luk. mi patfu do zo'o
(Come to the Dot Side! Luke, = I am your father. :D )

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