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Le samedi 8 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 19:57:39 UTC+9, lojb= ab a =C3=A9crit :
On 2/6/2= 014 8:58 PM, guskant wrote:
>
>
> Le vendredi 7 f=C3=A9vrier 2014 06:22:09 UTC+9, xorxes a =C3=A9cri= t :
>
>
>     On Thu, Feb 6, 2014 at 1:34 AM, guskant <gusni= ...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>         Although it will become out of topic, = I have another suggestion
>         related to the BPFK page of gadri.
>
>         "Any term without an explicit outer qu= antifier is a constant"
>         should be changed to
>         "Any term without an explicit outer qu= antifier can be a constant",
>         because an usual predicate logic has a= n axiom on a constant c
>         that "F(c) {inaja} there is at least o= ne (individual) x such
>         that F(x)";
>
>
>     That applies to singular constants, whereas unquanti= fied terms need
>     not be singular, but the version with plural quantif= iers will still
>     be valid.
>
>
>
> Actually, there is no explicit plural qiantifier in Lojban, though
> implicitly there are.

su'ore is the plural quantifier


That is a singular quantifi= er. I did not mean it by "plural quantifier". I meant that of plural logic.=
 

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