Received: from mail-qa0-f56.google.com ([209.85.216.56]:38156) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WCAbu-0004pS-3P for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:35 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f56.google.com with SMTP id j5sf1216618qaq.21 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=11v928h3M2/d2/0Qi6UiqlybQdEwM8iSGxEbmtjZ5vo=; b=K9A6/gy3EMzDdUuEai7nUUY1zAk7+yu9OMZa0EdZyNtz4shgT8P8YAafd3T2rykrAU WwSXlR/GDMMJUfy4+klRcfpviEy5Ks4sPTx0H4eTmPjFT6x/VPtOayKbjQz3iCFmUbmt kfHynhQ0dx1yt+oDa1+lpuGiZj3DFBbGOJHhMK7KdS8dbWW15WZdVZYigE6DQk6UEqGm D7Q08jeRR3aexLEZgMPQURIg6OOF4UXT64025/9vtnOJ1DLkau3SmkTryBlJq+0cuGv9 71jSzKfi7N/IcbXsEcOfWOe3+4/hJC4GOFOrsKUT7P+8snYCCzCncUPYlm7gHkfYVlD+ RoMA== X-Received: by 10.182.199.39 with SMTP id jh7mr153910obc.25.1391876303891; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.22.77 with SMTP id b13ls582964obf.36.gmail; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.81.7 with SMTP id v7mr8450871obx.28.1391876303242; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-ve0-x22e.google.com (mail-ve0-x22e.google.com [2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22e]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id ys4si1990103vdc.2.2014.02.08.08.18.23 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22e as permitted sender) client-ip=2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22e; Received: by mail-ve0-f174.google.com with SMTP id pa12so3667344veb.5 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.27.9 with SMTP id p9mr1202932vdg.28.1391876303146; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.220.8.195 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Feb 2014 08:18:23 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 14:18:23 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "three times as big" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Jorge_Llamb=EDas?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: jjllambias@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of jjllambias@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:400c:c01::22e as permitted sender) smtp.mail=jjllambias@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=20cf307d01049ed48b04f1e77468 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --20cf307d01049ed48b04f1e77468 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis < felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > This sentence from oz made me think: > {lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cpu my ku'o fo lo p=EC= lji be li > ki'o} > I vaguely remember a discussion at some point on whether lo ve zmadu was supposed to be lo klani or lo se klani. I don't remember the details, nor which side I was on, but probably for lo klani. For round numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g. > {lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we devis= e > a lujvo schema? > There really should be a MOI for "x1 is n times x2 in property x3", but lacking that how about defining: ko'a ny zei pi'i ko'e ko'i: lo se klani be ko'a bei ko'i cu pilji ny lo se klani be ko'e bei ko'i mu'o mi'e xorxes --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. --20cf307d01049ed48b04f1e77468 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable



On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <f= elipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote:
This sentence from oz = made me think:
{lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cp= u my ku'o fo lo p=EClji be li ki'o}

I vaguely remember a discussio= n at some point on whether lo ve zmadu was supposed to be lo klani or lo se= klani. I don't remember the details, nor which side I was on, but prob= ably for lo klani. =A0

For rou= nd numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g.
{= lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we devi= se a lujvo schema?

There really should be a MOI f= or "x1 is n times x2 in property x3", but lacking that how about = defining:

ko'a ny zei pi'i ko'e ko'= ;i: lo se klani be ko'a bei ko'i cu pilji ny lo se klani be ko'= e bei ko'i =A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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