Received: from mail-fa0-f64.google.com ([209.85.161.64]:51041) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WCBlA-0005K5-6R for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:14 -0800 Received: by mail-fa0-f64.google.com with SMTP id v1sf307501fav.19 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=5ljzpmR7C0HGh6Sx9yTepmeiuU5eGYw4ZjcycCBd8jg=; b=w/nq3sp6IkPbVp9KJwDbzFiYigxAmNSVu+tEPH8zceP2J0r53TPMJ2nP4SMouq1pfe bgVqVOEBLKNOyidKaKMnrwx8v9dFS/bjcZ45ftPWWVB4VCnlwLWZaBWN7TjSW7CMCCsp A2UgP9XPQcwfty4yfE7ZoNJTSjIb1kyq24+myYKugUsShFHmepstfjUdE+XdkSwenJbR Z40DFLd+uGU8IvRR4osl9qHeTfNEUHYedryLTzfxTunlfUiZoXdLGYlykPL+bIGu0S62 gJ1QeSIFmvp8ezkQ2he19Xb6yVF3WYg8bscnz06mBwYjpBsmr0MNV0PDAf6d+ua6NcJN eovg== X-Received: by 10.152.36.70 with SMTP id o6mr177143laj.3.1391880720823; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.152.45.66 with SMTP id k2ls226440lam.11.gmail; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.152.43.194 with SMTP id y2mr8918363lal.0.1391880720323; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received: from mail-lb0-x232.google.com (mail-lb0-x232.google.com [2a00:1450:4010:c04::232]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id rg9si1156765bkb.1.2014.02.08.09.32.00 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:32:00 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::232 as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:4010:c04::232; Received: by mail-lb0-f178.google.com with SMTP id u14so3685819lbd.9 for ; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:31:59 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.26.135 with SMTP id l7mr1882058lag.43.1391880719900; Sat, 08 Feb 2014 09:31:59 -0800 (PST) Received: by 10.112.61.136 with HTTP; Sat, 8 Feb 2014 09:31:59 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Sat, 8 Feb 2014 15:31:59 -0200 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] "three times as big" From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Felipe_Gon=E7alves_Assis?= To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: felipeg.assis@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of felipeg.assis@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:4010:c04::232 as permitted sender) smtp.mail=felipeg.assis@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e0160c2bee121db04f1e87b90 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --089e0160c2bee121db04f1e87b90 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I like {ny zei pi'i}! Let's see: {mi pa zei re zei pi'i do lo ka xo kau da panzi ce'u} (!) I also agree that a MOI for that would be great, if only to get rid of the annoying {zei}s... mu'o mi'e .asiz. On 8 February 2014 14:18, Jorge Llamb=EDas wrote: > > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 12:39 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis < > felipeg.assis@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This sentence from oz made me think: >> {lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cpu my ku'o fo lo p= =EClji be li >> ki'o} >> > > I vaguely remember a discussion at some point on whether lo ve zmadu was > supposed to be lo klani or lo se klani. I don't remember the details, nor > which side I was on, but probably for lo klani. > > For round numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g. >> {lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we >> devise a lujvo schema? >> > > There really should be a MOI for "x1 is n times x2 in property x3", but > lacking that how about defining: > > ko'a ny zei pi'i ko'e ko'i: lo se klani be ko'a bei ko'i cu pilji ny lo s= e > klani be ko'e bei ko'i > > mu'o mi'e xorxes > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out. > --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. 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I like {ny zei pi'i}! Let's see:
{mi pa zei re = zei pi'i do lo ka xo kau da panzi ce'u} (!)

I also agree tha= t a MOI for that would be great, if only to get rid of the annoying {zei}s.= ..

mu'o
mi'e .asiz.

On 8 February 2014 14:18, Jorge Llamb=EDas <jjllambias@gmail.com> wrote:



On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 = at 12:39 AM, Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis <felipeg.assis@gmail.com&g= t; wrote:
This sentence from oz = made me think:
{lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cp= u my ku'o fo lo p=EClji be li ki'o}

I vaguely remember a dis= cussion at some point on whether lo ve zmadu was supposed to be lo klani or= lo se klani. I don't remember the details, nor which side I was on, bu= t probably for lo klani. =A0

For rou= nd numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g.
{= lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we devi= se a lujvo schema?

There really should be a= MOI for "x1 is n times x2 in property x3", but lacking that how = about defining:

ko'a ny zei pi'i ko'e = ko'i: lo se klani be ko'a bei ko'i cu pilji ny lo se klani be k= o'e bei ko'i =A0

mu'o mi'e xorxes

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