Received: from mail-qa0-f62.google.com ([209.85.216.62]:38094) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WD0fA-00071m-PM for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:30 -0800 Received: by mail-qa0-f62.google.com with SMTP id k4sf2020348qaq.27 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:14 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=from:to:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results :reply-to:precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help :list-archive:sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe :content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=eDrQlNiFQEVe8UQvAbtQeE7Tc2MKO/iUVdxS9hRPHqs=; b=Nrw6D99AEjmYGHx2zAz3N/b4dxwL71LmnKh5m41DT5MR3quO3FWwP3foTrGlrYbBsR 2q+SSnxlAOBa9dmlT7ujDdcC3zNUkveWMmuaEBPjt63G2dSRrg+HfP+cw6LZwWrEsWyv dYZjQWzRpgfmWIfvaH/PEe2fA4c30G1Ng7J1DlDfK3B2mJpXo6nBuQODMlsy41iDG00i 9EgH60W/T41hWpZk1x/pG2aOqhxiMbPqQevfXDSGvQz4KD2+AHjku01p+Z5F+mTxY0mJ 5ron0obQhZXdMRvn0CwIublt4Zb64fJb4NKT0gguZOJgJBc5m1Xcr6Zgl5YMYJufdkNq 06wQ== X-Received: by 10.182.199.39 with SMTP id jh7mr77424obc.25.1392076394458; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:14 -0800 (PST) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.182.169.10 with SMTP id aa10ls896153obc.80.gmail; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) X-Received: by 10.182.230.168 with SMTP id sz8mr13464658obc.9.1392076393981; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received: from cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com (cdptpa-omtalb.mail.rr.com. [75.180.132.120]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTP id hh7si678466vdb.1.2014.02.10.15.53.13 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 15:53:13 -0800 (PST) Received-SPF: neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) client-ip=75.180.132.120; X-Authority-Analysis: v=2.0 cv=GMaK45xK c=1 sm=0 a=GbbTObCcR0DEgiyvVRM9bQ==:17 a=1TgBNrMDQccA:10 a=nd_PsV1MHdwA:10 a=Yr05hP5UdKEA:10 a=LlzFzjEJNC0A:10 a=8nJEP1OIZ-IA:10 a=JNFw9bs7AAAA:8 a=KGjhK52YXX0A:10 a=WYefjqbiBxoA:10 a=27IMTpCkr261WQE3ZbsA:9 a=wPNLvfGTeEIA:10 a=GbbTObCcR0DEgiyvVRM9bQ==:117 X-Cloudmark-Score: 0 X-Authenticated-User: X-Originating-IP: 98.122.190.249 Received: from [98.122.190.249] ([98.122.190.249:49042] helo=leopard.ixazon.lan) by cdptpa-oedge01.mail.rr.com (envelope-from ) (ecelerity 2.2.3.46 r()) with ESMTP id 22/76-00728-86669F25; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 23:53:12 +0000 Received: from caracal.localnet (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by leopard.ixazon.lan (Postfix) with ESMTP id 206D130F1 for ; Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:53:12 -0500 (EST) From: Pierre Abbat To: lojban@googlegroups.com Subject: Re: [lojban] "three times as big" Date: Mon, 10 Feb 2014 18:53:08 -0500 Message-ID: <1756093.nEkGdRZE9A@caracal> User-Agent: KMail/4.8.5 (Linux/3.2.0-58-generic; KDE/4.8.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Original-Sender: phma@bezitopo.org X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=neutral (google.com: 75.180.132.120 is neither permitted nor denied by best guess record for domain of phma@bezitopo.org) smtp.mail=phma@bezitopo.org Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 X-Spam-Score: -0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / On Saturday, February 08, 2014 01:39:29 Felipe Gon=E7alves Assis wrote: > This sentence from oz made me think: > {lo m=E0rce cu br=E0mau ro lo sm=E0cu poi pu'o l=E0cpu my ku'o fo lo p=EC= lji be li > ki'o} >=20 > It is fine as it is, but I guess the intended meaning is "the vehicle was= a > thousand times bigger than each rat", while it means something like "1001 > times bigger", since zmadu4 is the difference. >=20 > This is irrelevant for big inexact numbers, but what if I wanted to say, > e.g., "three times bigger"? Would I have to say {bramau fo lo pilji be li > re}? What about "three times smaller"? Should I use logarithms? >=20 > For round numbers, we have gismu like {kilto}, so we can say, e.g. > {lo marce cu braki'o ro lo smacu}. What about other numbers? Can we devis= e > a lujvo schema? lo nilbra be lo xruki cu pilji li ci lo nilbra be lo jipci This is three times as big, not three times bigger (which is four times as= =20 big). Pierre --=20 li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa --=20 You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "= lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an e= mail to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.