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Subject: Re: [lojban] {berti} - "to the north" or "northern side"?
Date: Thu, 27 Feb 2014 12:29:51 -0500
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 Content preview:  On Thursday, February 27, 2014 13:53:25 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
    > {berti} = x1 is to the north/northern side [right-hand-rule pole] of x2
    > according to frame of reference x3. > > I think this is polysemous. {lo
    gusta cu berti lo tcadu mi} with me > standing in the center of the city
   - does it mean that the restaurant is to > the north of the city and outside
    the city or it is in the northern part of > the city and thus within the
   borders of the city? [...] 
 
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On Thursday, February 27, 2014 13:53:25 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> {berti} = x1 is to the north/northern side [right-hand-rule pole] of x2
> according to frame of reference x3.
> 
> I think this is polysemous. {lo gusta cu berti lo tcadu mi} with me
> standing in the center of the city - does it mean that the restaurant is to
> the north of the city and outside the city or it is in the northern part of
> the city and thus within the borders of the city?

I think it is outside the city; we can use lujvo such as "bernenri" for the 
other case. But "mi" does not make sense as a terberti. The terberti should be 
"lo maksi" or "lo jendu" (and surveyors deal with others such as "lo 
cipi'emuzesomoi cartu" and "lo jecta gredile pe la .ber.karolinas.").

Pierre
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Jews use a lunisolar calendar; Muslims use a solely lunar calendar.

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