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On Friday, March 28, 2014 12:15:19 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> Meta-language for machine translation, you see? This super-bulky version
> won't be read by humans but it'd be super-useful for further translations
> to other languages.

For the vast majority of languages the Bible is currently being translated=
=20
into, machine translation from Lojban would be of no use whatsoever. They a=
re=20
spoken by a few hundred people, none of whom know anything about computers.

What is useful for many of them is computer-aided dialect adaptation. If yo=
u=20
have a translation in Dani, you can run it through the CADA program and get=
=20
some semblance of a translation in Yali. I don't have the CADA program and=
=20
know next to nothing of Dani and Yali, so here are some examples by hand fr=
om=20
Spanish to Portuguese.

En la era de David, el =E1ngel se par=F3 en la era de Orn=E1n. (Contrived e=
xample=20
from 2 Samuel 24:16)
Na era de Davi, o anjo se parou na era de Orn=E3o.
The second "era", which means "threshing floor", should be "eira" in=20
Portuguese.

Y el Se=F1or se enoj=F3 con Salom=F3n, por cuanto su coraz=F3n desvi=F3 del=
 Dios de=20
Israel, que se le hab=EDa aparecido dos veces. (1 Kings 11:9)
E o Senhor se enolhou com Salom=E3o, por quanto seu cora=E7=E3o desviou do =
Deus de=20
Israel, que se lhe havia aparecido duas vezes.
"Enolhar" appears to be meaningless, though I've found it in one title.=20
"Enojar" is not related to "ojo" and appears to have no Portuguese cognate.

Y puesto de rodillas, clam=F3 a gran voz: "=A1Se=F1or no les atribuyas este=
 pecado!"=20
Y habiendo dicho esto, durmi=F3. (Acts 7:60)
E posto de rodilhas, clamou a gr=E3 voz: "Senhor n=E3o lhes atribuas este p=
ecado!"=20
E havendo dito isto, dormiu.
"Rodilha" means a circular cloth used for cleaning in the kitchen or for=20
placing under objects carried on the head. "Knee" is "joelho", whose Spanis=
h=20
cognate, "hinojo", is a homonym of the much more common word for "fennel".

Pierre
--=20
When a barnacle settles down, its brain disintegrates.
J=E1 n=E3o percebe nada, j=E1 n=E3o percebe nada.

--=20
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