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 Content preview:  The CLL is indeed rather clear on this point: "Note also that
    sumti within other sumti, as in quotations, abstractions, and the like, are
    counted in the order of their beginnings; thus a lower level sumti...is considered
    to be more recent than a higher level sumti that contains it." So {ri} points
    to {lo cabdei} here. Referring to {lo du'u ... cabdei} once would be easiest
    with {lo se go'i}. [...] 
 
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The CLL is indeed rather clear on this point: "Note also that sumti within
other sumti, as in quotations, abstractions, and the like, are counted in
the order of their beginnings; thus a lower level sumti...is considered to
be more recent than a higher level sumti that contains it." So {ri} points
to {lo cabdei} here. Referring to {lo du'u ... cabdei} once would be
easiest with {lo se go'i}.

mi'e la latro'a mu'o


On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:14 AM, la durka <durka42@gmail.com> wrote:

> Er, I meant to ask, does {ri} point at {lo cabdei} or {lo du'u ... cabdei=
}?
>
> El lunes, 7 de abril de 2014 03:12:07 UTC-4, la durka escribi=F3:
>
>> I was confused about the referent of {ri}, when the last sumti has other
>> sumti nested within it. The CLL <http://dag.github.io/cll/7/6/> is
>> somewhat clear on this point, but Gleki thought the opposite, so here we
>> are.
>>
>> Example: mi jinvi lo du'u do crebi'o la .lojban. ca lo cabdei
>>
>> After this sentence, does {ri} point at {la .lojban.} or {lo du'u ...
>> cabdei}? And what's the shortest way you would refer to the other one?
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>The CLL is indeed rather clear on this point: &quot;N=
ote also that sumti within other sumti, as in quotations, abstractions,
 and the like, are counted in the order of their beginnings; thus a=20
lower level sumti...is considered to be more recent than a higher level sum=
ti that contains it.&quot; So {ri} points to {lo cabdei} here. Referring to=
 {lo du&#39;u ... cabdei} once would be easiest with {lo se go&#39;i}.<br>
<br></div>mi&#39;e la latro&#39;a mu&#39;o<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_ext=
ra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 3:14 AM, la d=
urka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:durka42@gmail.com" target=3D"_=
blank">durka42@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p=
x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">Er, I meant to ask, does {r=
i} point at {lo cabdei} or {lo du&#39;u ... cabdei}?<br><br>El lunes, 7 de =
abril de 2014 03:12:07 UTC-4, la durka escribi=F3:<div>
<div class=3D"h5"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0;margi=
n-left:0.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">=
I was confused about the referent of {ri}, when the last sumti has other su=
mti nested within it. <a href=3D"http://dag.github.io/cll/7/6/" target=3D"_=
blank">The CLL</a> is somewhat clear on this point, but Gleki thought the o=
pposite, so here we are.<br>
<br>Example: mi jinvi lo du&#39;u do crebi&#39;o la .lojban. ca lo cabdei<b=
r><br>After this sentence, does {ri} point at {la .lojban.} or {lo du&#39;u=
 ... cabdei}? And what&#39;s the shortest way you would refer to the other =
one?<br>
</div></blockquote></div></div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5=
">

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