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I'm pretty sure that 'ri' refers to {lo cabdei} here. I think "last complet=
ed sumti" should be interpreted as the last physical occurrence of a comple=
te sumti. But like Dan just said, there are other ways to do this as well.

mu'omi'e seb

Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone

> 7 apr 2014 kl. 15:58 skrev Dan Ros=C3=A9n <lurifax@gmail.com>:
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> > The CLL is somewhat clear on this point, but Gleki thought the opposite=
,=20
> > so here we are.
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> I also think it is unclear. Both {lo cabdei} and {lo du'u...} are in a se=
nse completed "at the same time". In which sense do you think it is clear? =
I don't find any examples like to this one.
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> The wave lessons seem to suggest that it should be {lo cabdei}, but this =
information is hidden inside an exercise:
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> le'e prenu poi ke'a kakne lo nu tavla fo la .lojban. cu tavla *ru* ...=20
> With the comment: ri is not correct, because it refers to la .lojban.
> (http://www.lojban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued, lesson 15)
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> > And what's the shortest way you would refer to the other one?
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> You could use the lerfu anaphora, so cy for {lo cabdei}, and assuming you=
're in the next sentence you could go for {lo se go'i} for the du'u-abstrac=
tion. Maybe you could even use dy. And of course, if you're desperate, use =
goi, *grin*.
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=
=3Dutf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div>I'm pretty sure that 'ri' refers t=
o {lo cabdei} here. I think "last completed sumti" should be interpreted as=
 the last <i>physical</i> occurrence of a complete sumti. But like Dan just=
 said, there are other ways to do this as well.</div><div><br></div><div>mu=
'omi'e seb<br><br>Skickat fr=C3=A5n min iPhone</div><div><br>7 apr 2014 kl.=
 15:58 skrev Dan Ros=C3=A9n &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:lurifax@gmail.com">lurifa=
x@gmail.com</a>&gt;:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div><div dir=
=3D"ltr"><a href=3D"http://dag.github.io/cll/7/6/" target=3D"_blank">&gt; T=
he CLL</a> is somewhat clear on this point, but Gleki thought the opposite,=
 <br>&gt; so here we are.<br><br>I also think it is unclear. Both {lo cabde=
i} and {lo du'u...} are in a sense completed "at the same time". In which s=
ense do you think it is clear? I don't find any examples like to this one.<=
br>

<br>The wave lessons seem to suggest that it should be {lo cabdei}, but thi=
s information is hidden inside an exercise:<br><br>le'e prenu poi ke'a kakn=
e lo nu tavla fo la .lojban. cu tavla *ru* ... <br>With the comment: ri is =
not correct, because it refers to la .lojban.<br>

(<a href=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued">http://www.loj=
ban.org/tiki/wavelessonscontinued</a>, lesson 15)<br><br>&gt; And what's th=
e shortest way you would refer to the other one?<br><br>You could use the l=
erfu anaphora, so cy for {lo cabdei}, and assuming you're in the next sente=
nce you could go for {lo se go'i} for the du'u-abstraction. Maybe you could=
 even use dy. And of course, if you're desperate, use goi, *grin*.<br>

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