Received: from mail-we0-f184.google.com ([74.125.82.184]:40513) by stodi.digitalkingdom.org with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.80.1) (envelope-from ) id 1WY8Tv-0005FN-PD for lojban-list-archive@lojban.org; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:29:13 -0700 Received: by mail-we0-f184.google.com with SMTP id u57sf246181wes.1 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:56 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlegroups.com; s=20120806; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :x-original-sender:x-original-authentication-results:reply-to :precedence:mailing-list:list-id:list-post:list-help:list-archive :sender:list-subscribe:list-unsubscribe:content-type; bh=lF1ibdeR519e1e/76io+9X3Dl6OgL6n2wXPueKI5hdA=; b=mJI57zOg5xKNiTZllIfpHQC2Db6ky4VZ9CCDd4Sl5tvWyebVeydtXZXsoYtKrZRqHq WG+3n+sJSlc7wGjhtxhnRQVpIsdAB7lliLssg+ugBK1buVo3sN3Lhu+rrCAOOHoBZLCG F3AsAL3OxoGLnKA7Wnuo8xnd7u3ZuVUUxUV2x1mPH/54C1lHaUi47KxHg5OIdBsXKQV1 hBInwf+/rKT5VdLZCfyL0sEr5lSiarU7MiryiybTw2knP8Zt+XKohZd20zYGNi3KDO9e DWD67T8cqrlauzc67zGEX/L3ouMyoCjBb4bGDIfrDyjqn+TItEd3iwsv+qyB737oaiMk A0aA== X-Received: by 10.180.198.111 with SMTP id jb15mr142821wic.13.1397111336383; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:56 -0700 (PDT) X-BeenThere: lojban@googlegroups.com Received: by 10.180.76.68 with SMTP id i4ls741493wiw.44.canary; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.204.171.76 with SMTP id g12mr657939bkz.2.1397111335562; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: from mail-we0-x22b.google.com (mail-we0-x22b.google.com [2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b]) by gmr-mx.google.com with ESMTPS id fy7si190461wib.1.2014.04.09.23.28.55 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received-SPF: pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) client-ip=2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b; Received: by mail-we0-f171.google.com with SMTP id t61so3425109wes.2 for ; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.99.161 with SMTP id er1mr18561286wib.3.1397111335459; Wed, 09 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.25.163 with HTTP; Wed, 9 Apr 2014 23:28:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <3430875.9trhn3DKg4@caracal> References: <3430875.9trhn3DKg4@caracal> Date: Thu, 10 Apr 2014 10:28:55 +0400 Message-ID: Subject: Re: [lojban] What are the most important fu'ivla and cimjvo? From: Gleki Arxokuna To: lojban@googlegroups.com X-Original-Sender: gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com designates 2a00:1450:400c:c03::22b as permitted sender) smtp.mail=gleki.is.my.name@gmail.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com Reply-To: lojban@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list lojban@googlegroups.com; contact lojban+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 1004133512417 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: Sender: lojban@googlegroups.com List-Subscribe: , List-Unsubscribe: , Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=f46d04426db0dca07104f6aa54d6 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam_score: 0.0 X-Spam_score_int: 0 X-Spam_bar: / --f46d04426db0dca07104f6aa54d6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 2014-04-10 3:55 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat : > On Wednesday, April 09, 2014 12:55:30 Gleki Arxokuna wrote: > > We know that gimste represents more or less most basic concepts. > > But what about fu'ivla and cimjvo? > > Although, we have a frequency dictionary what are in your opinion the > most > > important of them? > > The months (some of which can't be entered in jbovlaste because of a bug in > vlatai): ianvari, frebuari, martio, prilio, madjio, djunio, djulio, > avgusto, > septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero. > Previously we discussed what is better: numbered names of months (pavma'i) or Roman names. So is there a consent? > Foods: agbakate, alba'aka, altamru, alzaitu, articoka/xarcufu, birkoku, > brokoli (brukobli), bromeli/grutrxananase, cidjrburito, djoguro, fiprgado, > flaume, fragari, glefino, ge(n)jrdauko/ka'orta/morkovi, > jerjelino/simsimu/xonxoli, kapsiku, kolbasa, mandioka, persika, rutrmango, > salmone, sardina, spageti. > > Plants: a'orne/arce, alga, arnika, bromeli, dzizani, filcina, iedra, > jglandi, > junkace, junpero, kartamo, lorvera, ma'agni, me'andi, mlaluka, sailce, > tcandana, urci, vandula, vraike. > > Animals: alpaka, amniota, ansoptera (laxsfani), antilope, arxokuna/prokioni > (lumge'u), bakrto, braxiura, cionmau, ckankua, ckinoje, dinsauru, djaguara, > djirafa, dorkada, falkoni, foldota, guakmaio, igvana, jboia, jbonobo, > kalmari, > kanguru, karkaju, kokcinela, marmota, miptera, moptera, nerfopi, odbenu, > odnata, oktopoda/oxtapodi, rangutano, salmone, sargueia, skargolu, takside, > tcimpazi, trixexo/trixexu, visnda, xarjngiri/xarjnjiri. > > Ethnic groups, religions, regionalities, and nationalities: berbero, > bolgaro, > ckiptare, islenska, mraigo, noxtino, pangaio, po'olska, sfe'ero, skalduna, > slovako, slovino, suomne, tirkce, tokpona, tsalagi, xalsixa, xelveto, > zimbabu. > > Materials: alminiu, anmonia, ckabrkacia, furfuru, jinmrtitani, kanvasa. > > Other: aftobuso/sorpeka, bitkoine, braibe, cantaje, caxmati, crenzue, > dinkrnite, fraktali, gredile, ionti, ipka/ipkota, irci, ketlete, klamburi, > korpora, lerldjamo, metfora, protoni, spontane, taifnu, torceli > (magmiltre), > tsunami, u'imla. > I can see only fu'ivla here. Do you have any cimjvo in mind? {fu'ivla} and {zi'evla} are two examples of important cimjvo. > Pierre > -- > li fi'u vu'u fi'u fi'u du li pa > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "lojban" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "lojban" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to lojban+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to lojban@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/lojban. 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2014-04-10 3:55 GMT+04:00 Pierre Abbat <phma@bezitopo.org><= /span>:
On Wednesday, April 09, 2014= 12:55:30 Gleki Arxokuna wrote:
> We know that gimste represents more or less most basic concepts.
> But what about fu'ivla and cimjvo?
> Although, we have a frequency dictionary what are in your opinion the = most
> important of them?

The months (some of which can't be entered in jbovlaste because o= f a bug in
vlatai): ianvari, frebuari, martio, prilio, madjio, djunio, djulio, avgusto= ,
septembero, oktobero, novmbero, decmbero.

Previously we discussed what is better: numbered names of months (pavma&= #39;i) or Roman names. So is there a consent?


Foods: agbakate, alba'aka, altamru, alzaitu, articoka/xarcufu, birkoku,=
brokoli (brukobli), bromeli/grutrxananase, cidjrburito, djoguro, fiprgado,<= br> flaume, fragari, glefino, ge(n)jrdauko/ka'orta/morkovi,
jerjelino/simsimu/xonxoli, kapsiku, kolbasa, mandioka, persika, rutrmango,<= br> salmone, sardina, spageti.

Plants: a'orne/arce, alga, arnika, bromeli, dzizani, filcina, iedra, jg= landi,
junkace, junpero, kartamo, lorvera, ma'agni, me'andi, mlaluka, sail= ce,
tcandana, urci, vandula, vraike.

Animals: alpaka, amniota, ansoptera (laxsfani), antilope, arxokuna/prokioni=
(lumge'u), bakrto, braxiura, cionmau, ckankua, ckinoje, dinsauru, djagu= ara,
djirafa, dorkada, falkoni, foldota, guakmaio, igvana, jboia, jbonobo, kalma= ri,
kanguru, karkaju, kokcinela, marmota, miptera, moptera, nerfopi, odbenu, odnata, oktopoda/oxtapodi, rangutano, salmone, sargueia, skargolu, takside,=
tcimpazi, trixexo/trixexu, visnda, xarjngiri/xarjnjiri.

Ethnic groups, religions, regionalities, and nationalities: berbero, bolgar= o,
ckiptare, islenska, mraigo, noxtino, pangaio, po'olska, sfe'ero, sk= alduna,
slovako, slovino, suomne, tirkce, tokpona, tsalagi, xalsixa, xelveto, zimba= bu.

Materials: alminiu, anmonia, ckabrkacia, furfuru, jinmrtitani, kanvasa.

Other: aftobuso/sorpeka, bitkoine, braibe, cantaje, caxmati, crenzue,
dinkrnite, fraktali, gredile, ionti, ipka/ipkota, irci, ketlete, klamburi,<= br> korpora, lerldjamo, metfora, protoni, spontane, taifnu, torceli (magmiltre)= ,
tsunami, u'imla.

I can see only fu&= #39;ivla here. Do you have any cimjvo in mind?

{fu= 'ivla} =C2=A0and {zi'evla} are two examples of important cimjvo.


Pierre
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