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Subject: Re: [lojban] Tag compounds' semantics
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On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ilmen <ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> In Jbovlaste and the ma'oste, {vi} is described as follow:
> * << location tense distance: here at ... ; at or a very short/tiny
> distance from ... >>
>

That's somewhat contradictory, which can ve seen more clearly with "va" or
"vu":

"near to ... ; there at ...; a medium/small distance from ..."

 "far from ... ; yonder at ... ; a long distance from ..."

"Here/there/yonder at ..." is obviously not the same as "a
short/medium/long distance from ..."

In any case CLL dropped the "here/there/yonder at ..." version, and
the BPFK has the magnitude version:

http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distance


As I understand it, {vi} is a tag based on {sepli}; its argument is a
> sepli2, and not a sepli3.
> Otherwise, {vi lo cmalu} would be somewhat redundant, don't you think so?
> :)
>

"vi lo cmalu" is somewhat redundant, but "vi lo centre be li ci" is not. :)

 mu'o mi'e xorxes

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quo=
te">On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 1:49 PM, Ilmen <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D=
"mailto:ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">ilmen.pokebip@gmail.com<=
/a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">
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  <div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000"><br>
    In Jbovlaste and the ma&#39;oste, {vi} is described as follow:<br>
    &bull; &laquo; location tense distance: here at ... ; at or a very shor=
t/tiny
    distance from ... &raquo;<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Tha=
t&#39;s somewhat contradictory, which can ve seen more clearly with &quot;v=
a&quot; or &quot;vu&quot;:</div><div><pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)">&quot;=
near to ... ; there at ...; a medium/small distance from ...&quot;</pre>
<pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial;color:rgb(=
34,34,34)">&nbsp;&quot;</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial">far from ..=
. ; yonder at ... ; a long&nbsp;</span><span style=3D"font-family:arial">di=
stance from ...&quot;</span></pre>
<pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><span style=3D"font-family:arial">&quot;Her=
e/there/yonder at ...&quot; is obviously not the same as &quot;a short/medi=
um/long distance from ...&quot;</span></pre><pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"=
><font face=3D"arial">In any case CLL dropped the </font><span style=3D"fon=
t-family:arial">&quot;here/there/yonder at ...&quot; version, </span><span =
style=3D"font-family:arial">and the BPFK has the magnitude version:&nbsp;</=
span></pre>
<pre style=3D"color:rgb(0,0,0)"><font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"arial"><a h=
ref=3D"http://www.lojban.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distance">http://www.lojb=
an.org/tiki/BPFK+Section%3A+Distance</a></font></pre><pre style=3D"color:rg=
b(0,0,0)">
<font color=3D"#000000" face=3D"arial"><br></font></pre></div><blockquote c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1p=
x;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1=
ex">
<div bgcolor=3D"#FFFFFF" text=3D"#000000">
    As I understand it, {vi} is a tag based on {sepli}; its argument is
    a sepli2, and not a sepli3.<br>
    Otherwise, {vi lo cmalu} would be somewhat redundant, don&#39;t you
    think so? :)<br></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>&quot;vi lo cmal=
u&quot; is somewhat redundant, but &quot;vi lo centre be li ci&quot; is not=
. :)</div><div><br></div><div>&nbsp;mu&#39;o mi&#39;e xorxes</div><div><br>
</div></div></div></div>

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