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For those of you who can not access the link, here is the discussion:

> Lojban is not a logic in the sense that logicians use the word. It has the 
> syntax but not the semantics. A logic needs both. See the Semantics section 
> of the wiki page of first-order logic for a brief overview on what 
> first-order semantics look like. I have not seen any Lojban documents that 
> would have defined the structure that's used for interpreting the words of 
> the language, a class of structures that would provide acceptable 
> interpretations, or even a rule for constructing such classes of 
> structures. 
>

 Could you provide an example of one word that has semantics defined for it 
> in the logical sense? Every word that I've seen has been defined in terms 
> of translations to other languages with possibly a sentence or two 
> explaining which of the different meanings of the word is intended. Those 
> are not first-order definitions of things.


So, how do the semantics of Lojban work? 

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xlit-What-would-a-Lojban-speaking-culture-look-like&amp;p=3D17810171#post17=
810171<br></p><p><br></p><p>For those of you who can not access the link, h=
ere is the discussion:</p><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin=
: 0;margin-left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">Lojb=
an is not a logic in the sense that logicians use the word. It has the synt=
ax but not the semantics. A logic needs both. See the Semantics section of =
the wiki page of first-order logic for a brief overview on what first-order=
 semantics look like. I have not seen any Lojban documents that would have =
defined the structure that's used for interpreting the words of the languag=
e, a class of structures that would provide acceptable interpretations, or =
even a rule for constructing such classes of structures.&nbsp;<br></blockqu=
ote><p><br></p><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0;margin-=
left: 0.8ex;border-left: 1px #ccc solid;padding-left: 1ex;">&nbsp;Could you=
 provide an example of one word that has semantics defined for it in the lo=
gical sense? Every word that I've seen has been defined in terms of transla=
tions to other languages with possibly a sentence or two explaining which o=
f the different meanings of the word is intended. Those are not first-order=
 definitions of things.</blockquote><div><br></div><div>So, how do the sema=
ntics of Lojban work?&nbsp;</div></div>

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